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TeriAnn,
=20
Not all chrome looks the same. There is really cheap chrome and very =
expensive show chrome, all on different metal bases. =20
The two look extremely different.
=20
If I had to guess, I =E2=80=98d say the ones you bought out of Mexico =
were cheap chrome marketed and sold as stainless, but are actually =
chromed mild steel.
=20
Cheap chrome will not last. I am not sure I understand the discussion =
between the bumpers from Mexico 14 years ago and the 1.5mm (16 gauge) =
304 Stainless ones from Vietnam?
=20
Do you still have the bumpers from Mexico? Take them to any reputable =
hot rod show chrome shop and they will give you a free quote to =
re-chrome them for price comparison, then will either confirm if the =
chrome job is cheap, or if it is some sort of leading edge 14-year-old =
stainless steel plating.
=20
If they say it is stainless steel plating, get that in writing, I will =
buy your drinks at the next Triumphest.
=20
If they say it was cheap chrome job from Mexico, you buy my drinks at =
the next Triumphest I attend.
=20
Deal?
=20
Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage
=20
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. =
Wakeman
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2023 4:02 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel,
=20
Regardless of what is deemed possible and what is not.
=20
1. I purchased a set of bumpers off of e-bay labeled as stainless steel. =
The bumper has a slightly different colour cast than a chrome shine. =
This winter it grew a lot of rust spots. As I remember the company was =
based in Mexico. The purchase was about 14ish years ago, the rust is =
from this past winter.
=20
2. I hit it with steel wool and saw bright metal flakes about the =
thickness I associate with chrome flakes.
=20
3. A google search for stainless steel bumpers yielded A Vietnam company =
advertising stainless steel bumpers. 1.5mm thick stainless steel, and =
three layers of paint on the back side to protect it from the weather.
=20
That's all I know. If it is impossible, how do they do it or are they =
lying about their process and products. I don't care about the reasons =
they could not make the products they sell. These bumpers looked good =
for about 10 years longer than new chrome bumpers I previously purchased =
and as I mentioned the colour cast was different from chrome. I didn't =
complete the rebuild of my car before I could see rust on the new chrome =
bumpers I had purchased.
=20
TeriAnn
=20
=20
On 5/14/23 12:40 PM, stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org =
Wooo HOOOO, the ChatGPT fact checker!! =20
=20
Go right ahead and believe the output of ChatGPT Ai all you want, but =
nobody should consider
ChatGPT AI a fact checker (see its disclaimer) by any means.
If you really want to go there, definitely make sure your doctor uses =
ChatGPT Ai to write your
prescription and guide the cancer surgeon to cure you on your next =
doctor visit too. (Read the
ChatGPT disclaimers)
=20
The Science: =20
Although stainless steel plating "may be possible", it is "not =
economically feasible" nor "complete
properties transfer", BECAUSE the technology has not been yet developed =
to take something like mild
steel or pot metal and plate it in "stainless" BECAUSE the molecular =
transfer - the electrolysis
does not transfer all the properties (ions) of stainless properties to =
the surface of the receptor
metal. Since the electrolysis process does not transfer ALL the =
stainless-steel molecular
properties content, it is not, and cannot be "stainless steel" plating =
BECAUSE one, stainless steel
is a grade of steel composition, and two, not all the stainless-steel =
properties can be transferred
using electrolysis. =20
=20
Why believe established engineering science as opposed to another =
all-knowing Ai deity?=20
ChatGPT is, as it has been proven in most cases, incorrect, why? In =
this case, it is because
ChatGPT does not state the grade of stainless-steel plating, and that =
can be any grade from grade
200 to Hastelloy C276 that BTW, cannot be tested.
=20
Using the term "solid stainless steel". It is like saying plywood or =
engineered wood is solid wood
because it contains all wood products or, that a piece of jewelry is =
"solid gold" when it may be
24,18,16,12 karat gold content or even "solid gold" flash plating. If =
you want "solid gold" as the
criteria, I have some to sell you from China.
=20
100% and "solid" are marketing hype found only from hucksters, sales =
people, fraudsters and flashy
marketing claims meant to deceive. =20
=20
Caveat Emptor ya'll.
=20
"My 'shine is 100% corn sour mash", but I add a little rice and barley =
and herbs to the mash for
that family secret flavor, but it's 100% corn in that mash". Uh huh, =
the FDA has been playing that
% game since the day it was formed.
=20
There are literally dozens of grades of stainless steel. Stainless =
steel it is not, nor has it ever
been graded by "solid" or 100%. Stainless steel composition is set by =
standards written by various
engineers to address specific hardness , wear and corrosion properties, =
then set to a "GRADE".=20
=20
316 stainless steel, or Hastelloy C276, now that I can understand as =
being stainless steel. 100%
or Solid are meaningless.
=20
I have spent the better part of 50 years automating control systems for =
all sorts of processes from
apple pealing and produce processing, semiconductors, nuclear power, =
Watson Ai, ultra-pure water
production to x-ray imaging and xenon gas detection, and a large part of =
that job was to know metals
the metals used in those machines or processes, and most times get metal =
composition certified from
the manufacturers process used in regulated processes like =
pharmaceuticals, food processing, and
nuclear power instrumentation.
=20
There are reasons you do not want certain metals touching the food you =
eat or in contact with
nuclear generated steam. =20
Run that one through ChatGPT Ai and see what metals leach cancer causing =
molecules directly into
your medicines or food and accept it as fact if you trust ChatGPT =
"facts" with your life.
=20
And there are reasons why "stainless steel plating" is also hype, as of =
today at least. I am sure
technology will advance someday to plate 308 or 316 or Hastelloy C276 =
onto pot metal or mild steel
and the process will be certified, but it does not exist as of the date =
of this email. =20
=20
I will gladly accept a show quality triple plate chrome bumper for my =
Triumph and it will last long
after I am gone, because its corrosion properties have been proven to =
last more than 50 years. But
if it is claimed to be solid stainless or 100% stainless, I'll want to =
know the grade AND polish.
=20
Here we go with another "fluif" worthless discussion. =20
=20
Another Caveat from someone who actually worked on IBM Watson speech =
recognition project: Be
extremely careful how you compose OpenAi ChatGPT questions including the =
specific wording and
ordering and grammar in that question, you may not get the answers you =
expect and will then blindly
rely upon as facts.
=20
That is because OpenAI ChatGPT is not programmed nor capable to answer =
your question:=20
=20
"Do you know what I mean?". =20
=20
No computer program algorithm has of yet until you attach the =
bio-junction connection directly into
your brain, and even then, it will probably get it wrong because some =
novice app programmer came up
with the algorithm.
=20
Know what I mean?
=20
Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage
=20
-----Original Message-----
<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Stan Foster
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 8:39 PM
<tjwakeman@gmail.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net =
Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel
=20
ChatGPT confirms:
=20
Yes, it is possible to plate steel with stainless steel. This process is =
known as electroplating or
galvanization and involves depositing a thin layer of stainless steel =
onto the surface of the steel
through an electrolytic process.
=20
In this process, the steel is first cleaned and then placed in an =
electrolytic bath with a solution
containing the ions of the stainless steel. An electric current is then =
passed through the solution,
causing the ions to be deposited onto the surface of the steel.
=20
The resulting plated steel will have the corrosion-resistant properties =
of stainless steel, which
can be beneficial for applications where the steel will be exposed to =
harsh environments or
corrosive substances.
=20
-----Original Message-----
<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel
=20
On 5/13/23 6:08 PM, stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org =
Sorry Alex,
=20
You may want to do some fact checking. There is no grade for "solid =
stainless steel".
=20
I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over=20
mild steel technology exists a of yet.
=20
"Welcome to PTT BUMPERS. We are a specialist manufacturing in stainless =
steel bumpers for classic
car. Our bumper are made of 100% stainless steel grade 304 , thickness =
1.5mm and hand polished. The
gloss of bumper is shiny like mirror polish and the backside of bumper =
are cover by 3 painted layers
to protect the bumper from the bad weather and chemicals elements."
=20
They plate them somehow.
=20
=20
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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>TeriAnn,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Not all =
chrome looks the same.=C2=A0 There is really cheap chrome and very =
expensive show chrome, all on different metal bases.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The two look extremely =
different.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>If I had to guess, I =E2=80=98d say the ones you =
bought out of Mexico were cheap chrome marketed and sold as stainless, =
but are actually chromed mild steel.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Cheap chrome =
will not last.=C2=A0 I am not sure I understand the discussion between =
the bumpers from Mexico 14 years ago and the 1.5mm (16 gauge) 304 =
Stainless ones from Vietnam?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Do you still =
have the bumpers from Mexico?=C2=A0 Take them to any reputable hot rod =
show chrome shop and they will give you a free quote to re-chrome them =
for price comparison, then will either confirm if the chrome job is =
cheap, or if it is some sort of leading edge 14-year-old stainless steel =
plating.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>If they say it is stainless steel plating, get that in =
writing, I will buy your drinks at the next Triumphest.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If they say =
it was cheap chrome job from Mexico, you buy my drinks at the next =
Triumphest I attend.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Deal?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Glenn aka =
StagByTriumph Garage<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>TeriAnn J. =
Wakeman<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 14, 2023 4:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Stainless =
Steel,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Regardless of what is deemed possible and what is =
not.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1. I purchased a set of bumpers off of e-bay labeled =
as stainless steel. The bumper has a slightly different colour cast than =
a chrome shine. This winter it grew a lot of rust spots. As I remember =
the company was based in Mexico. The purchase was about 14ish years ago, =
the rust is from this past winter.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>2. I hit it with steel wool and saw bright metal =
flakes about the thickness I associate with chrome =
flakes.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>3. A google search for stainless steel bumpers yielded =
A Vietnam company advertising stainless steel bumpers. 1.5mm thick =
stainless steel, and three layers of paint on the back side to protect =
it from the weather.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>That's all I know. If it is impossible, how do they do =
it or are they lying about their process and products. I don't care =
about the reasons they could not make the products they sell. These =
bumpers looked good for about 10 years longer than new chrome bumpers I =
previously purchased and as I mentioned the colour cast was different =
from chrome. I didn't complete the rebuild of my car before I could see =
rust on the new chrome bumpers I had =
purchased.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>TeriAnn<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 5/14/23 12:40 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org";>stagbytriumph@triumphst=
agclub.org</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Wooo HOOOO, the =
ChatGPT fact checker!!=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Go right ahead and =
believe the output of ChatGPT Ai all you want,=C2=A0 but nobody should =
consider<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>ChatGPT AI a fact checker (see its =
disclaimer) by any means.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> If you really want to go =
there, definitely make sure your doctor uses ChatGPT Ai to write =
your<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>prescription and guide the cancer surgeon to =
cure you on your next doctor visit too. (Read =
the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>ChatGPT =
disclaimers)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>The =
Science:=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Although stainless steel plating =
"may be possible", it is "not economically feasible" =
nor "complete<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>properties transfer", =
BECAUSE the technology has not been yet developed to take something like =
mild<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>steel or pot metal and plate it in =
"stainless" BECAUSE the molecular transfer - the =
electrolysis<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>does not transfer all the properties =
(ions) of stainless properties to the surface of the =
receptor<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>metal.=C2=A0 Since the electrolysis =
process does not transfer ALL the stainless-steel =
molecular<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>properties content, it is not, and cannot =
be "stainless steel" plating BECAUSE one, stainless =
steel<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>is a grade of steel composition, and two, not =
all the stainless-steel properties can be =
transferred<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>using electrolysis.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Why believe =
established engineering science as opposed to another all-knowing Ai =
deity? <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>=C2=A0ChatGPT is, as it has been proven in =
most cases, incorrect, why?=C2=A0 In this case, it is =
because<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>ChatGPT does not state the grade of =
stainless-steel plating, and that can be any grade from =
grade<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>200 to Hastelloy C276 that BTW, cannot be =
tested.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Using the term =
"solid stainless steel".=C2=A0 It is like saying plywood or =
engineered wood is solid wood<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>because it contains =
all wood products or,=C2=A0 that a piece of jewelry is "solid =
gold" when it may be<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>24,18,16,12 karat gold =
content or even "solid gold" flash plating. If you want =
"solid gold" as the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>criteria, I have some =
to sell you from =
China.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>100% and =
"solid" are marketing hype found only from hucksters, sales =
people, fraudsters and flashy<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>marketing claims =
meant to deceive.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Caveat Emptor =
ya'll.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>"My 'shine =
is 100% corn sour mash", but I add a little rice and barley and =
herbs to the mash for<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>that family secret flavor, =
but it's 100% corn in that mash".=C2=A0 Uh huh, the FDA has been =
playing that<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>% game since the day it was =
formed.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>There are =
literally dozens of grades of stainless steel.=C2=A0 Stainless steel it =
is not, nor has it ever<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>been graded by =
"solid" or 100%.=C2=A0 Stainless steel composition is set by =
standards written by various<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>engineers to address =
specific hardness , wear and corrosion properties, then set to a =
"GRADE". <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>316 =
stainless steel, or Hastelloy C276,=C2=A0 now that I can understand as =
being stainless steel.=C2=A0 100%<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>or Solid are =
meaningless.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I have =
spent the better part of 50 years automating control systems for all =
sorts of processes from<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>apple pealing and produce =
processing, semiconductors, nuclear power, Watson Ai, ultra-pure =
water<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>production to x-ray imaging and xenon gas =
detection, and a large part of that job was to know =
metals<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the metals used in those machines or =
processes, and most times get metal composition certified =
from<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the manufacturers process used in regulated =
processes like pharmaceuticals, food processing, =
and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>nuclear power =
instrumentation.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>There =
are reasons you do not want certain metals touching the food you eat or =
in contact with<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>nuclear generated steam.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Run that one through ChatGPT Ai and see what =
metals leach cancer causing molecules directly =
into<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>your medicines or food and accept it as fact =
if you trust ChatGPT "facts" with your =
life.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>And there are =
reasons why "stainless steel plating" is also hype, as of =
today at least.=C2=A0 I am sure<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>technology will =
advance someday to plate 308 or 316 or Hastelloy C276 onto pot metal or =
mild steel<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>and the process will be certified, but =
it does not exist as of the date of this email.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I will gladly accept a =
show quality triple plate chrome bumper for my Triumph and it will last =
long<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>after I am gone, because its corrosion =
properties have been proven to last more than 50 years.=C2=A0 =
But<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>if it is claimed to be solid stainless or 100% =
stainless, I'll want to know the grade AND =
polish.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Here we go with =
another "fluif" worthless discussion.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Another Caveat from =
someone who actually worked on IBM Watson speech recognition =
project:=C2=A0 Be<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>extremely careful how you compose =
OpenAi ChatGPT questions including the specific wording =
and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>ordering and grammar in that question, you may =
not get the answers you expect and will then =
blindly<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>rely upon as =
facts.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>That is because =
OpenAI ChatGPT is not programmed nor capable to answer your question: =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>"Do you know what =
I mean?".=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>No computer program =
algorithm has of yet until you attach the bio-junction connection =
directly into<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>your brain, and even then, it will =
probably get it wrong because some novice app programmer came =
up<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>with the =
algorithm.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Know what I =
mean?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Glenn aka =
StagByTriumph =
Garage<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>-----Original =
Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: Triumphs <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";><triumphs-bounces@auto=
x.team.net></a> On Behalf Of Stan Foster<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: =
Saturday, May 13, 2023 8:39 PM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: TeriAnn J. =
Wakeman <a =
href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com";><tjwakeman@gmail.com></a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><o:p><=
/o:p></pre><pre>Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless =
Steel<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>ChatGPT =
confirms:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Yes, it is =
possible to plate steel with stainless steel. This process is known as =
electroplating or<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>galvanization and involves =
depositing a thin layer of stainless steel onto the surface of the =
steel<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>through an electrolytic =
process.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>In this =
process, the steel is first cleaned and then placed in an electrolytic =
bath with a solution<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>containing the ions of the =
stainless steel. An electric current is then passed through the =
solution,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>causing the ions to be deposited onto the =
surface of the =
steel.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>The resulting =
plated steel will have the corrosion-resistant properties of stainless =
steel, which<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>can be beneficial for applications =
where the steel will be exposed to harsh environments =
or<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>corrosive =
substances.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>-----Origina=
l Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: Triumphs <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";><triumphs-bounces@auto=
x.team.net></a> On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. =
Wakeman<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 9:29 =
PM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><o:p><=
/o:p></pre><pre>Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless =
Steel<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>On 5/13/23 6:08 =
PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org";>stagbytriumph@triumphst=
agclub.org</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Sorry =
Alex,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>You may want to =
do some fact checking.=C2=A0 There is no grade for "solid stainless =
steel".<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I do not =
believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>mild steel technology exists a of =
yet.<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>"=
Welcome to PTT BUMPERS. We are a specialist manufacturing in stainless =
steel bumpers for classic<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>car. Our bumper are made =
of 100% stainless steel grade 304 , thickness 1.5mm and hand polished. =
The<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>gloss of bumper is shiny like mirror polish and =
the backside of bumper are cover by 3 painted =
layers<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>to protect the bumper from the bad weather =
and chemicals =
elements."<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>They =
plate them somehow.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>** =
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