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Re: [TR] How to Re-align splines in OD to mate with transmission shaft?

To: aribert neumann <aribertn@gmail.com>, "Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net)" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] How to Re-align splines in OD to mate with transmission shaft?
From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2023 09:28:21 -0400
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References: <CAGkVM28tB788tw8kxfOuOJ1dLzgOQ5UkVjGBTtEGKixqnTPAGw@mail.gmail.com> <450992338.3379178.1680262515652@mail.yahoo.com> <CAGkVM2_vx0_7hVwRAjs+W7w3Jcbc4FXGPvbMgd3rDqy6i5f7Vg@mail.gmail.com>
If you have to loosen it anyway, is there any harm in completely
detaching it and replacing the gasket?

On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 8:25â?¯AM aribert neumann <aribertn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have the D-type.   Based on responses and a couple of videos I found, it 
> appears that I need to reduce spring pressure no matter what to be able to 
> get the splines loose enough to rotate.  So it looks like I need to loosen 
> the fasteners that secure the castings on either side of item 26.   Image of 
> D-type attached.  I can just imagine another (future) oil leak.    Still a 
> bit surprised the splines shifted when all I did after removing was to pour 
> solvent into the diff and slosh the solvent around.
>
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 7:35â?¯AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>>
>> What model overdrive is it.  I have figured out the A-type and the J-type.  
>> The J-type has an intermediate piece between the OD and the transmission 
>> that gets attached to the OD before being attached to the trans.  Either way 
>> the sun gear and the sprag clutch splines must be aligned with the cone 
>> clutch in the neutral position.  If it is in contact with either the ring 
>> gear or the brake ring the sun gear will not move and it must so you can 
>> align it with the sprag clutch.  Once that is done you can install the 
>> springs and the intermediate piece on the J-type and Bob's you uncle.
>>
>> The A-type is more tricky.  Since there is no intermediate piece to hold the 
>> clutch in place it will drop when you invert it to drop it onto the 
>> transmission and the bevel cut gears on the planetary gear set will cause 
>> the clutch to rotate out of position.  Of course the solution is to not 
>> invert the OD but to invert the transmission and lower IT onto the OD unit.  
>> It's a little counter-intuitive but it works.
>>
>> I am not familiar with the D-type but if that is what you have it is 
>> probably similar to either the A-type or the D-type.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: aribert neumann <aribertn@gmail.com>
>> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>> Sent: Thu, Mar 30, 2023 10:09 pm
>> Subject: [TR] How to Re-align splines in OD to mate with transmission shaft?
>>
>> What is the trick to get the two sets of OD splines completely aligned?   My 
>> Bentley manual (GT6) says to use a long screwdriver - fat chance.   I even 
>> milled a piece of steel flat stock to mimic two opposing splines of the 
>> trans mainshaft with a taper/lead-in on the tip.   I have gently tapped the 
>> flat stock but the second set of splines is still offset  by about 1/16 of 
>> an inch and does not want to rotate into alignment.   I did not do any 
>> service of the OD other than to rinse and flush out the inside of the OD - 
>> not sure how the splines became misaligned.
>>
>> I've seen one video where someone loosens the bolts that hold the two 
>> aluminum casting housings sandwiched to the steel component to take the 
>> spring load off of the asm and make it easier to rotate the splines into 
>> alignment.   My OD has been nice and dry and I really do not want to create 
>> a potential oil leak path by partially separating these three components if 
>> I do not need to.
>> TIA - off in digest mode.
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