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Hi, Dave,
=20
Very few, if any of the Experimental Engineers made it into the public =
and enthusiast=E2=80=99s eye except for one or two =E2=80=93 and they =
were mainly known only in the UK. Sadly, all but one of them are now =
fixing Heralds in heaven. One of them was the late Ray Henderson from =
the Experimental Department. A lovely, unassuming man who was a =
brilliant engineer of the old school and who could turn his hand to =
fixing the impossible miles from anywhere, told me many stories of his =
experiences. Ray undertook quite a number of trips in development cars =
to far flung destinations and the one about which he was the most =
critical was being one of the crew that drove two or three Heralds =
(pre-launch versions) from Cape Town in South Africa to London. The book =
of that trip was called =E2=80=9CTurn Left at Tangier=E2=80=9D though I =
don=E2=80=99t think Ray provided much of the input to it being written. =
If he had, it=E2=80=99s likely he=E2=80=99d have either lost his job or =
been seriously disciplined on his return. He was scathing in the extreme =
about the whole venture and highly critical of the Company for even =
suggesting the exercise in the first place. In Ray=E2=80=99s view =
=E2=80=93 which I think was shared by all those who went with him on the =
trip, was that the cars were totally unsuited to the journey they made =
and it=E2=80=99s a tribute to Ray and his colleagues that they actually =
managed to get the cars back, so badly were they damaged by the =
appalling so-called roads and no roads at all in crossing the Sahara =
desert. Apart from the unsuitability of the chosen route, none of those =
who took part were given any kind of training or pre-run preparation in =
terms of the types of terrain, culture, language, =
don=E2=80=99t-do=E2=80=99s etc that they would encounter, the very real =
dangers that faced them in going through certain countries where the =
white man definitely was not wanted, through training in basic medicine =
and first aid, treating colleagues for scorpion attacks or snake bite =
and damn all in terms of carrying appropriate medical kits on all the =
vehicles. As I recall, there were three Heralds, one Vanguard estate car =
and a Standard Atlas van with about one and a half tons of parts, tools, =
fuel, water and camping kit =E2=80=93 and just one 948cc engine to drive =
it!!!!! Ray told me that each Herald required at least three rear =
suspension rebuilds en-route, several clutch changes and two or three =
major gearbox failures! I can=E2=80=99t recall the details now, but =
there were so many driveshaft, rear wheel carriers and other vital parts =
failures, that several more were air-freighted out to Nigeria in the =
hope of getting the cars home. I do know all the cars were re-fitted in =
Lagos, Nigeria with locally made radiators that didn=E2=80=99t break or =
crack as a result of vibration. Having spent a lot of time in Africa =
myself, I know what their roads can do and I have a lot of respect for =
local tradespeople on street corners who can do truly amazing things in =
repairing something that looks smashed beyond repair. Anyway, when they =
finally got to Coventry, all the men who had taken part in the event, =
were publicly castigated by Harry Webster, the Director of Engineering =
for submitting trip reports that were critical of a number of =
Webster-inspired features on the Herald in particular. Ray summarised =
that event as =E2=80=9Cthe journey through hell=E2=80=9D and he was very =
critical of Alick Dick (Standard-Triumph=E2=80=99s CEO) and Frank Higham =
(Sales Director) for abdicating the company=E2=80=99s duty of care to =
employees in sending that team of men on what they felt was a dangerous =
and ill thought-out expedition in cars that were totally unsuited to =
that sort of travel in such conditions.
Another of Ray=E2=80=99s unique contributions was the creation of a =
Spitfire whose roadholding was far better than the Sprite/Midget in =
standard spec. It was so good that Webster insisted it should be put in =
the crusher and the concept forgotten. Basically, Ray modified a =
Spitfire taken off the line, substantially reinforced the rear part of =
the bodyshell and re-equipped the car with semi-trailing arms and coil =
springs as per the TR4A but using parts from the Triumph 1300 front =
wheel drive car. Ray did that conversion, on his own, in the Engineering =
workshop in just three weeks =E2=80=93 and without any drawings at all! =
It was all done on =E2=80=9Cif it looks right, it=E2=80=99ll probably be =
right =E2=80=93 and it was. That car was so good it *ought* to have gone =
into production but the costs that would have been incurred in =
completely re-jigging the chassis and doing major work in re-designing =
and strengthening the body tub would have put another GBP50 (@ 1966 =
values) on the manufacturing cost of the car. Such a cost would have =
translated to an extra GBP250 at retail =E2=80=93 and Webster claimed =
(perhaps correctly?) that this would price the Spitfire out of the =
market and make the Spridget the favoured car for its price, so he threw =
the whole idea out. A terrible shame in its way. All those (few) who =
drove the car =E2=80=93 apart from Webster, were unanimous it was the =
way the Spitfire should have been designed from the start and leading =
that argument was the Company=E2=80=99s chief test driver!
So, a little bit of =E2=80=98behind the scenes=E2=80=99 history for =
those who are interested. Apologies for taking up space they may not =
interest most people.
=20
Jonmac
=20
From: Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net>=20
Sent: 06 December 2022 14:04
To: johnbmacartney@gmx.com
Cc: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>; stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org; =
Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville@hotmail.com>; Triumphs =
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Travel and tuning question
=20
That=E2=80=99s interesting Jonmac,
Did any of those shows ever discuss how the drivers handled the =
altitude? Asking for a friend, LOL.
Dave Connitt
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2022, at 4:12 AM, johnbmacartney@gmx.com =
=EF=BB=BF
Back in the day =E2=80=93 like fifty plus years ago, all the larger UK =
car makers undertook extensive altitude testing on all their cars. =
Favourite locations were Europe, Scandinavia, Canadian Rockies, the =
Andes and Iran before the Shah was deposed. Lots of Pike=E2=80=99s Peak =
equivalent places in some of those locations and this sort of testing is =
something many enthusiasts don=E2=80=99t take on board.
=20
Jonmac
=20
Sent: 05 December 2022 19:22
Cc: stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org =
Subject: Re: [TR] Travel and tuning question
=20
Before the pandemic I drove my TR3 from sea level in California, to =
Flagstaff Arizona, just shy of 7000=E2=80=99, for Triumphest. On the =
way home we drove over Tioga Pass going into Yosemite at 9,945 feet. I =
didn=E2=80=99t adjust anything and it ran well.
=20
Rye
=20
<image001.jpg>
On Dec 4, 2022, at 2:37 AM, johnbmacartney@gmx.com =
=20
Agreed. I don=E2=80=99t recall either of those Stags suffering fuel =
starvation or 'altitude' sickness. One on SU's, the other on Strombergs. =
Must admit I was glad when we did the descent as the altitude was doing =
me no good at all. That said, a great drive in both directions, a fine =
day and an amazing view at the summit.
jonmac
-----Original Message-----
From: stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org =
<stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org =
Sent: 02 December 2022 21:34
'Randy and Valerie DeRuiter' <deruiterville@hotmail.com =
>
Subject: Re: [TR] Travel and tuning question
I hear there are a lot of "'deer" on top of Pikes Peak at various times!
Glenn aka StagByTriumph
-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 10:45 AM
To: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville@hotmail.com =
Subject: Re: [TR] Travel and tuning question
Thanks for the tip Randy!=20
Yea, the trip to Pikes Peak started from a conversation with some =
TriState Triumph people at lunch after one of our =E2=80=9Cspirited =
drives=E2=80=9D. The trip up Pikes Peak was a bucket list goal of one of =
the couples. I asked my wife if she wanted to go too and after saying =
yes, she suggested that since we will be out west why not see some other =
sites? We=E2=80=99re both retired so there=E2=80=99s no hurry getting =
back home. There=E2=80=99s about 8 of us going to Pikes Peak so far. I =
haven=E2=80=99t mentioned our extended trip to the group yet but some of =
them may want to go with us instead of driving straight back to Cinci.
Thanks again for the electric fuel pump idea!!
Tha car is already up on the QuckJack=F0=9F=98=81.
Dave and Colleen Connitt
FOG 51
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 2, 2022, at 11:56 AM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter =
=EF=BB=BFDave
Sounds like a great trip - I didn=E2=80=99t make the last tour with my =
other FOG buddies but when they went through the Rockies the #1 issue at =
altitude was the mechanical fuel pump cavitating due to ethanol gas we =
think. A couple guys on the trip hooked up temporary electric pumps and =
had no issue - no carb adjustments were made for any of them.
Randy
FOG37
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 2, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net =
=EF=BB=BFHi all,
This coming summer my wife and I are planning a fairly long trip in my =
TR4A leaving from Cincinnati, Ohio (altitude approximately =
500=E2=80=99). Our first destination is going to be Colorado Springs, =
Co. to drive up Pikes Peak (altitude approximately 14,115=E2=80=99). =
Then north to Mt. Rushmore (altitude approximately 5,700=E2=80=99), then =
north to drive through Yellowstone national park (altitude approximately =
9,200=E2=80=99). That=E2=80=99s going to be quite a swing in altitude =
and I am wondering if I will have to occasionally tune the SU HS-6 =
carbs? Has anyone on the list done a similar drive? If so, how did your =
Triumph run and what did you have to adjust?
Thanks in advance!
Dave Connitt
=E2=80=9867 TR4A-IRS
DavesTR4A.com <http://DavesTR4A.com>=20
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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi, Dave,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Very few, =
if any of the Experimental Engineers made it into the public and =
enthusiast=E2=80=99s eye except for one or two =E2=80=93 and they were =
mainly known only in the UK. Sadly, all but one of them are now fixing =
Heralds in heaven. One of them was the late Ray Henderson from the =
Experimental Department. A lovely, unassuming man who was a brilliant =
engineer of the old school and who could turn his hand to fixing the =
impossible miles from anywhere, told me many stories of his experiences. =
Ray undertook quite a number of trips in development cars to far flung =
destinations and the one about which he was the most critical was being =
one of the crew that drove two or three Heralds (pre-launch versions) =
from Cape Town in South Africa to London. The book of that trip was =
called =E2=80=9CTurn Left at Tangier=E2=80=9D though I don=E2=80=99t =
think Ray provided much of the input to it being written. If he had, =
it=E2=80=99s likely he=E2=80=99d have either lost his job or been =
seriously disciplined on his return. He was scathing in the extreme =
about the whole venture and highly critical of the Company for even =
suggesting the exercise in the first place. In Ray=E2=80=99s view =
=E2=80=93 which I think was shared by all those who went with him on the =
trip, was that the cars were totally unsuited to the journey they made =
and it=E2=80=99s a tribute to Ray and his colleagues that they actually =
managed to get the cars back, so badly were they damaged by the =
appalling so-called roads and no roads at all in crossing the Sahara =
desert. Apart from the unsuitability of the chosen route, none of those =
who took part were given any kind of training or pre-run preparation in =
terms of the types of terrain, culture, language, =
don=E2=80=99t-do=E2=80=99s etc that they would encounter, the very real =
dangers that faced them in going through certain countries where the =
white man definitely was not wanted, through training in basic medicine =
and first aid, treating colleagues for scorpion attacks or snake bite =
and damn all in terms of carrying appropriate medical kits on all the =
vehicles. As I recall, there were three Heralds, one Vanguard estate car =
and a Standard Atlas van with about one and a half tons of parts, tools, =
fuel, water and camping kit =E2=80=93 and just one 948cc engine to drive =
it!!!!! Ray told me that each Herald required at least three rear =
suspension rebuilds en-route, several clutch changes and two or three =
major gearbox failures! I can=E2=80=99t recall the details now, but =
there were so many driveshaft, rear wheel carriers and other vital parts =
failures, that several more were air-freighted out to Nigeria in the =
hope of getting the cars home. I do know all the cars were re-fitted in =
Lagos, Nigeria with locally made radiators that didn=E2=80=99t break or =
crack as a result of vibration. Having spent a lot of time in Africa =
myself, I know what their roads can do and I have a lot of respect for =
local tradespeople on street corners who can do truly amazing things in =
repairing something that looks smashed beyond repair. Anyway, when they =
finally got to Coventry, all the men who had taken part in the event, =
were publicly castigated by Harry Webster, the Director of Engineering =
for submitting trip reports that were critical of a number of =
Webster-inspired features on the Herald in particular. Ray summarised =
that event as =E2=80=9Cthe journey through hell=E2=80=9D and he was very =
critical of Alick Dick (Standard-Triumph=E2=80=99s CEO) and Frank Higham =
(Sales Director) for abdicating the company=E2=80=99s duty of care to =
employees in sending that team of men on what they felt was a dangerous =
and ill thought-out expedition in cars that were totally unsuited to =
that sort of travel in such conditions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Another of =
Ray=E2=80=99s unique contributions was the creation of a Spitfire whose =
roadholding was far better than the Sprite/Midget in standard spec. It =
was so good that Webster insisted it should be put in the crusher and =
the concept forgotten. Basically, Ray modified a Spitfire taken off the =
line, substantially reinforced the rear part of the bodyshell and =
re-equipped the car with semi-trailing arms and coil springs as per the =
TR4A but using parts from the Triumph 1300 front wheel drive car. Ray =
did that conversion, on his own, in the Engineering workshop in just =
three weeks =E2=80=93 and without any drawings at all! It was all done =
on =E2=80=9Cif it looks right, it=E2=80=99ll probably be right =E2=80=93 =
and it was. That car was so good it *<b>ought</b>* to have gone into =
production but the costs that would have been incurred in completely =
re-jigging the chassis and doing major work in re-designing and =
strengthening the body tub would have put another GBP50 (@ 1966 values) =
=C2=A0on the manufacturing cost of the car. Such a cost would have =
translated to an extra GBP250 at retail =E2=80=93 and Webster claimed =
(perhaps correctly?) that this would price the Spitfire out of the =
market and make the Spridget the favoured car for its price, so he threw =
the whole idea out. A terrible shame in its way. All those (few) who =
drove the car =E2=80=93 apart from Webster, were unanimous it was the =
way the Spitfire should have been designed from the start and leading =
that argument was the Company=E2=80=99s chief test =
driver!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>So, a little bit of =E2=80=98behind =
the scenes=E2=80=99 history for those who are interested. Apologies for =
taking up space they may not interest most =
people.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jonmac<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm;font-size:pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Dave Connitt =
<dconnitt@fuse.net> <br><b>Sent:</b> 06 December 2022 =
14:04<br><b>To:</b> johnbmacartney@gmx.com<br><b>Cc:</b> Rye Livingston =
<ryel@mac.com>; stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org; Randy and =
Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville@hotmail.com>; Triumphs =
<triumphs@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Travel and =
tuning question<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>That=E2=80=99s interesting =
Jonmac,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Did any of those shows =
ever discuss how the drivers handled the altitude? Asking for a friend, =
LOL.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dave Connitt<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec 6, 2022, at 4:12 AM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com";>johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Back in the day =E2=80=93 like =
fifty plus years ago, all the larger UK car makers undertook extensive =
altitude testing on all their cars. Favourite locations were Europe, =
Scandinavia, Canadian Rockies, the Andes and Iran before the Shah was =
deposed. Lots of Pike=E2=80=99s Peak equivalent places in some of those =
locations and this sort of testing is something many enthusiasts =
don=E2=80=99t take on board.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jonmac</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm;font-size:pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Rye Livingston =
<<a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com";>ryel@mac.com</a>> =
<br><b>Sent:</b> 05 December 2022 19:22<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com";>johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a><br><b>C=
c:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org";>stagbytriumph@triumphst=
agclub.org</a>; Dave Connitt <<a =
href=3D"mailto:dconnitt@fuse.net";>dconnitt@fuse.net</a>>; Randy and =
Valerie DeRuiter <<a =
href=3D"mailto:deruiterville@hotmail.com";>deruiterville@hotmail.com</a>&g=
t;; Triumphs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><b=
r><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Travel and tuning =
question<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Before the =
pandemic I drove my TR3 from sea level in California, to Flagstaff =
Arizona, just shy of 7000=E2=80=99, for Triumphest. On the way =
home we drove over Tioga Pass going into Yosemite at 9,945 feet. I =
didn=E2=80=99t adjust anything and it ran well.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rye<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><image001.jpg><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Dec 4, 2022, at 2:37 AM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com";>johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Agreed. I don=E2=80=99t recall either of those Stags =
suffering fuel starvation or 'altitude' sickness. One on SU's, the other =
on Strombergs. Must admit I was glad when we did the descent as the =
altitude was doing me no good at all. That said, a great drive in both =
directions, a fine day and an amazing view at the =
summit.<br><br>jonmac<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org";>stagbytriumph@triumphst=
agclub.org</a> <<a =
href=3D"mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org";>stagbytriumph@triumphst=
agclub.org</a>> <br>Sent: 02 December 2022 21:34<br>To: 'Dave =
Connitt' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:dconnitt@fuse.net";>dconnitt@fuse.net</a>>; 'Randy and =
Valerie DeRuiter' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:deruiterville@hotmail.com";>deruiterville@hotmail.com</a>&g=
t;<br>Cc: 'Triumphs' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><b=
r>Subject: Re: [TR] Travel and tuning question<br><br>I hear there are a =
lot of "'deer" on top of Pikes Peak at various =
times!<br><br>Glenn aka StagByTriumph<br><br>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: Triumphs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>triumphs-bounces@autox.te=
am.net</a>> On Behalf Of Dave Connitt<br>Sent: Friday, December 2, =
2022 10:45 AM<br>To: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <<a =
href=3D"mailto:deruiterville@hotmail.com";>deruiterville@hotmail.com</a>&g=
t;<br>Cc: Triumphs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><b=
r>Subject: Re: [TR] Travel and tuning question<br><br>Thanks for the tip =
Randy! <br>Yea, the trip to Pikes Peak started from a conversation with =
some TriState Triumph people at lunch after one of our =E2=80=9Cspirited =
drives=E2=80=9D. The trip up Pikes Peak was a bucket list goal of one of =
the couples. I asked my wife if she wanted to go too and after saying =
yes, she suggested that since we will be out west why not see some other =
sites? We=E2=80=99re both retired so there=E2=80=99s no hurry getting =
back home. There=E2=80=99s about 8 of us going to Pikes Peak so far. I =
haven=E2=80=99t mentioned our extended trip to the group yet but some of =
them may want to go with us instead of driving straight back to =
Cinci.<br><br>Thanks again for the electric fuel pump idea!!<br>Tha car =
is already up on the QuckJack<span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif'>😁</span>.<br>Dave and Colleen Connitt<br>FOG =
51<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Dec 2, 2022, at 11:56 AM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <<a =
href=3D"mailto:deruiterville@hotmail.com";>deruiterville@hotmail.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br><br>=EF=BB=BFDave<br><br>Sounds like a great trip - I =
didn=E2=80=99t make the last tour with my other FOG buddies but when =
they went through the Rockies the #1 issue at altitude was the =
mechanical fuel pump cavitating due to ethanol gas we think. A =
couple guys on the trip hooked up temporary electric pumps and had no =
issue - no carb adjustments were made for any of =
them.<br><br>Randy<br>FOG37<br><br>Sent from my =
iPhone<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Dec 2, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Dave Connitt <<a =
href=3D"mailto:dconnitt@fuse.net";>dconnitt@fuse.net</a>> =
wrote:<br><br>=EF=BB=BFHi all,<br>This coming summer my wife and I are =
planning a fairly long trip in my TR4A leaving from Cincinnati, =
Ohio (altitude approximately 500=E2=80=99). Our first destination is =
going to be Colorado Springs, Co. to drive up Pikes Peak (altitude =
approximately 14,115=E2=80=99). Then north to Mt. Rushmore (altitude =
approximately 5,700=E2=80=99), then north to drive through Yellowstone =
national park (altitude approximately 9,200=E2=80=99). That=E2=80=99s =
going to be quite a swing in altitude and I am wondering if I will have =
to occasionally tune the SU HS-6 carbs? Has anyone on the list done a =
similar drive? If so, how did your Triumph run and what did you have to =
adjust?<br>Thanks in advance!<br>Dave Connitt<br>=E2=80=9867 =
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