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Re: [TR] Add coolant overflow catch to TR3A

To: Dave MacKay <dave@mdmackay.ca>
Subject: Re: [TR] Add coolant overflow catch to TR3A
From: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:42:54 -0800
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I installed this overflow radiator bottle in my 60 TR3
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mrg-9135 =
<https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mrg-9135>

The clear tube up the side showing the fluid level is what I like. =20

There are a bunch of different shapes and sizes available.
=
https://www.summitracing.com/search?SortBy=3DBestKeywordMatch&SortOrder=3D=
Ascending&keyword=3Duniversal%20overflow =
<https://www.summitracing.com/search?SortBy=3DBestKeywordMatch&SortOrder=3D=
Ascending&keyword=3Duniversal%20overflow>

Along with the coil which I=E2=80=99ve moved off the engine, away from =
the heat and vibration, I=E2=80=99ve got the overflow bottle and coil =
mounted side by side on the drivers side inner fender wall.

When I look in the radiator when cold, the coolant is about 1/3 deep in =
the neck, and it=E2=80=99s about halfway up the clear tube on the side =
of the overflow bottle.

Rye





> On Feb 14, 2022, at 7:56 AM, Dave MacKay <dave@mdmackay.ca> wrote:
>=20
> =20
> =20
> The TR3A owners manual (Practical hints =E2=80=A6) says to =E2=80=9Ckeep=
 the neck of the filler at least half full of water=E2=80=9D. I=E2=80=99ve=
 been doing that and have always had coolant spilling out from the car.=20=

> =20
> If Randy is correct in saying that one should barely see coolant in =
the radiator neck when the TR3A is cold, I=E2=80=99ve been overfilling =
the radiator. Can I solve the overflow problem simply by keeping the rad =
less full? If so, how high should I fill the rad?=20
> =20
> Or would I be better off fitting a TR4A overflow bottle? If so, where =
would be a good location? Here=E2=80=99s what I=E2=80=99d been thinking =
of: https://mossmotors.com/catalogsearch/result/?cat=3D8823&q=3Doverflow =
<https://mossmotors.com/catalogsearch/result/?cat=3D8823&q=3Doverflow>
> =20
> Thanks,
> =20
> Dave MacKay
> =20
> >From: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville@hotmail.com =
> >Subject: Re: [TR] Add coolant overflow catch to TR3A
> >=20
> >I'm not sure you have room as I haven't done it on a TR3A, but a =
coolant bottle and bracket from a TR4A-6 might fit which would put it =
below the horns.  On my TR4, I added an expansion tank from an MGB like =
the picture attached which >remained pressurized with the system and =
worked well.  That tank can be added pretty much anywhere you have room.
> >=20
> >That said, are you sure you need an overflow bottle?  The 3A radiator =
neck has a lot of expansion space in it - and normally that is what =
keeps all the coolant in place - are you possibly overfilling your =
radiator?  When cold you should barely >see coolant in the radiator =
neck. =20
> >=20
> >Randy
> >=20
> >> I=E2=80=99d like to add a coolant overflow bottle to my TR3A (s/n =
68639L). I=E2=80=99m trying to determine a good spot for the coolant =
overflow bottle. The spot I like best is already taken up by the horns.
> >>=20
> >> What Have others done? Pictures would be very helpful.
> >>=20
> >> Thanks in advance,
> =20
> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
installed this overflow radiator bottle in my 60 TR3<div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mrg-9135"; =
class=3D"">https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mrg-9135</a></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The clear tube up the =
side showing the fluid level is what I like. &nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">There are a bunch of =
different shapes and sizes available.</div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/search?SortBy=3DBestKeywordMatch&amp;=
SortOrder=3DAscending&amp;keyword=3Duniversal overflow" =
class=3D"">https://www.summitracing.com/search?SortBy=3DBestKeywordMatch&a=
mp;SortOrder=3DAscending&amp;keyword=3Duniversal%20overflow</a></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Along with the coil =
which I=E2=80=99ve moved off the engine, away from the heat and =
vibration, I=E2=80=99ve got the overflow bottle and coil mounted side by =
side on the drivers side inner fender wall.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">When I look in the radiator when cold, =
the coolant is about 1/3 deep in the neck, and it=E2=80=99s about =
halfway up the clear tube on the side of the overflow bottle.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Rye</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 14, 2022, at 7:56 AM, Dave MacKay &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@mdmackay.ca"; class=3D"">dave@mdmackay.ca</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; =
border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: =
3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">The TR3A owners manual (Practical hints =E2=80=A6) says to =
=E2=80=9Ckeep the neck of the filler at least half full of water=E2=80=9D.=
 I=E2=80=99ve been doing that and have always had coolant spilling out =
from the car.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">If Randy is correct in saying that one should barely see =
coolant in the radiator neck when the TR3A is cold, I=E2=80=99ve been =
overfilling the radiator. Can I solve the overflow problem simply by =
keeping the rad less full? If so, how high should I fill the rad?<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">Or would I be better off fitting a TR4A overflow bottle? If =
so, where would be a good location? Here=E2=80=99s what I=E2=80=99d been =
thinking of:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/catalogsearch/result/?cat=3D8823&amp;q=3Dov=
erflow" style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">https://mossmotors.com/catalogsearch/result/?cat=3D8823&amp;q=3D=
overflow</a></span></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">Thanks,</span></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Dave MacKay</span></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Randy and Valerie DeRuiter =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:deruiterville@hotmail.com"; style=3D"color: rgb(5, =
99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">deruiterville@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">&gt;Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [TR] Add coolant =
overflow catch to TR3A</span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">&gt;<span style=3D"" class=3D"">I'm =
not sure you have room as I haven't done it on a TR3A, but a coolant =
bottle and bracket from a TR4A-6 might fit which would put it below the =
horns.&nbsp; On my TR4, I added an expansion tank from an MGB like the =
picture attached which<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span>&gt;<span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">remained pressurized with the system and worked well.&nbsp; =
That tank can be added pretty much anywhere you have =
room.</span></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">&gt;<span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">&gt;<span style=3D"" class=3D"">That said, are you sure you =
need an overflow bottle?&nbsp; The 3A radiator neck has a lot of =
expansion space in it - and normally that is what keeps all the coolant =
in place - are you possibly overfilling your radiator?&nbsp; When cold =
you should barely<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span>&gt;<span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">see coolant in the radiator =
neck.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">&gt;<span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">&gt;<span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">Randy</span></span></div></div><div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;</div></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&gt;&gt; I=E2=80=99d like to add a =
coolant overflow bottle to my TR3A (s/n 68639L). I=E2=80=99m trying to =
determine a good spot for the coolant overflow bottle. The spot I like =
best is already taken up by the horns.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&gt;&gt;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&gt;&gt; What Have =
others done? Pictures would be very helpful.</div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&gt;&gt;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&gt;&gt; Thanks in =
advance,</div><p class=3D"xmsonormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"xmsonormal"=
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