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Re: [TR] TR6 starter

To: dave <dave@ranteer.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 starter
From: Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen@outlook.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 03:23:02 +0000
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I=92d guess that the field coil in the solenoid had a short to ground, and =
the short circuit current heated the coil insulating material to the point =
of a fire.

Cliff

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s 10

Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 starter

Thats the solenoid.  I'm pretty sure it fried.   Nothing else looks amiss. =
 But it could have stuck. No way of knowing

-------- Original message --------
From: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net>
Date: 2/14/21 7:46 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: 'dave' <dave@ranteer.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [TR] TR6 starter

Uh Oh! The smoke came out of the wires! I don=92t want to make fun of the s=
ituation but could it be a sticking starter that never disengaged? But usua=
lly, you would think that you would hear that. What condition were the batt=
ery cables in? Did they show signs of overheating?

Alex Thomson

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 7:51 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] TR6 starter

This is a high torque starter that I just pulled out of my TR6.  There was =
a lot of stinky smoke.

Anyone have any idea what caused this?  or seen anything like this before? =
 It must be about 10 or even 15 years old.  No more than 10k miles ago.

I started the car the other day; it was in the mid 20=92s.  let it idle for=
 probably 10 or 15 minutes.  Drove a few miles and smelled it.  pulled off =
and popped the hood.  Lots of smoke coming out.

Towed it home and ordered a new starter.


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=92d guess that the field coil in the solenoid had =
a short to ground, and the short circuit current heated the coil insulating=
 material to the point of a fire.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cliff</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Sunday, February 14, 2021 7:34 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.n=
et</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] TR6 starter</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thats the solenoid.&nbsp; I'm pretty sure it fried.&=
nbsp; &nbsp;Nothing else looks amiss.&nbsp; But it could have stuck. No way=
 of knowing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">-------- Original messag=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">From: Alex &amp; Janet T=
homson &lt;aljlthomson@charter.net&gt;
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Date: 2/14/21 7:46 PM (G=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">To: 'dave' &lt;dave@rant=
eer.com&gt;, triumphs@autox.team.net
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Subject: RE: [TR] TR6 st=
arter <o:p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Uh Oh! The smoke ca=
me out of the wires! I don=92t want to make fun of the situation but could =
it be a sticking starter that never disengaged?
 But usually, you would think that you would hear that. What condition were=
 the battery cables in? Did they show signs of overheating?</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>
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lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Alex Thomson</span>=
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sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.n=
et]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>dave<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 14, 2021 7:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] TR6 starter</span></p>
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lt:auto">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">This is a high torque starter that I just pulled out of my TR6.&nb=
sp; There was a lot of stinky smoke.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Anyone have any idea what caused this?&nbsp; or seen anything like=
 this before?&nbsp; It must be about 10 or even 15 years old.&nbsp; No more=
 than 10k miles ago.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">I started the car the other day; it was in the mid 20=92s.&nbsp; l=
et it idle for probably 10 or 15 minutes.&nbsp; Drove a few miles and smell=
ed it.&nbsp; pulled off and popped the hood.&nbsp; Lots of
 smoke coming out.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">&nbsp;</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Towed it home and ordered a new starter.</p>
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