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Re: [TR] Fitting an electric fuel pump

To: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>, Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Fitting an electric fuel pump
From: Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen@outlook.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 01:04:34 +0000
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Pumps 12/24V - HARDI Automotive (hardi-automotive.com)<https://www.hardi-au=
tomotive.com/en/products/pumps-1224v/> looks like 13312 is lower pressure t=
han 14412

I=92m fairly sure the -12 part indicates the type of fuel line fittings.

Cliff

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Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] Fitting an electric fuel pump

Rye;

I'm trying to determine the practical difference between the
HARDI 13312 and their 14412. Perhaps either one would work....

Dave

c.com>> wrote:
Cliff,

I=92m pretty sure it=92s the 13312, has the same slip-on fuel line fittings=
, which is the one highlighted on the home page.

At the bottom of the home page is a link to a table of comparison English v=
ehicles.  Doesn=92t list TR3, but you will see it=92s listing it at 2.5-3 p=
si.

Just got back from our DYTD drive with 12 Triumphs and 1 Jaguar XKE Coupe o=
ver to the coast.  It was raining yesterday and rain tomorrow, but today wa=
s sunny California!

Rye




om>> wrote:

What brand pump are you installing?

When I converted my 1960 TR3A to an electric fuel pump I went with a Facet =
mounted below the fuel tank but it was really loud. My local shop, British =
Motorsports, recommended the Hardi fuel pump.  You can mount if by the fuel=
 tank or in the engine compartment.  It will push or pull and is very quiet=
.  Initially I installed it in my engine compartment, but later on I wanted=
 to install a coolant overflow bottle and needed the room, so moved it to t=
he back, so I=92ve had it do both.  https://www.hardi-automotive.com/en/pro=
ducts/fuel-pumps/

Rye




lphia.net>> wrote:

Stuart,

I mounted my pump at the rear of the boot well. Remember filter before the =
pump. I replaced the mechanical pump with a regulator with gauge. Some one =
on this list sells the plate that blocks off the spot where the pump used t=
o be.

I have the same pump and system on all 3 of my TRs.

58 3, 62 4 and 72 6. No problems in almost 20 years.

Do mount the pump with some rubber washers.

Bob

On 2/9/21 8:43 PM, Stuart Greenwood wrote:

I would like to fit an Electric fuel ump to my TR250 . Has anyone done this=
? If so where did you install it?

Stuart A Greenwood
TR250
1971 Spitfire Mk IV

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cts/pumps-1224v/">Pumps 12/24V - HARDI Automotive (hardi-automotive.com)</a=
> looks like 13312 is lower pressure than 14412<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=92m fairly sure the -12 part indicates the type of=
 fuel line fittings.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cliff</p>
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ef=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com";>David Friedlander</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, February 10, 2021 6:01 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com";>Rye Livingston</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>TR List</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Fitting an electric fuel pump</p>
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mic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099">Rye;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
mic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099">I'm trying to determine the practical diff=
erence between the&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
mic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099">HARDI 13312 and&nbsp;their 14412. Perhaps =
either one would work....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
mic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099">Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 7:15 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com";>ryel@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cliff,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=92m pretty sure it=92s the 13312, has the same sli=
p-on fuel line fittings, which is the one highlighted on the home page. &nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">At the bottom of the home page is a link to a table =
of comparison English vehicles.&nbsp; Doesn=92t list TR3, but you will see =
it=92s listing it at 2.5-3 psi.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Just got back from our DYTD drive with 12 Triumphs a=
nd 1 Jaguar XKE Coupe over to the coast.&nbsp; It was raining yesterday and=
 rain tomorrow, but today was sunny California!<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rye<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Feb 10, 2021, at 7:55 AM, Rye Livingston &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com"; target=3D"_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o=
:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What brand pump are you installing? &nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">When I converted my 1960 TR3A to an electric fuel pu=
mp I went with a Facet mounted below the fuel tank but it was really loud. =
My local shop, British Motorsports, recommended the Hardi fuel pump.&nbsp; =
You can mount if by the fuel tank or in
 the engine compartment.&nbsp; It will push or pull and is very quiet.&nbsp=
; Initially I installed it in my engine compartment, but later on I wanted =
to install a coolant overflow bottle and needed the room, so moved it to th=
e back, so I=92ve had it do both. &nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.hardi-automo=
tive.com/en/products/fuel-pumps/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.hardi-autom=
otive.com/en/products/fuel-pumps/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rye<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Feb 10, 2021, at 4:41 AM, Bob &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:yellowtr@adelphia.net" target=3D"_blank">yellowtr@adelphia.net</a>&gt; w=
rote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Stuart,<br>
<br>
I mounted my pump at the rear of the boot well. Remember filter before the =
pump. I replaced the mechanical pump with a regulator with gauge. Some one =
on this list sells the plate that blocks off the spot where the pump used t=
o be.<br>
<br>
I have the same pump and system on all 3 of my TRs.<br>
<br>
58 3, 62 4 and 72 6. No problems in almost 20 years.<br>
<br>
Do mount the pump with some rubber washers.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I would like to fit an Electric fuel ump to my TR250=
 . Has anyone done this? If so where did you install it?<br>
<br>
Stuart A Greenwood<br>
TR250<br>
1971 Spitfire Mk IV<br>
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