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No, we attempted to put the battery in the car after it had been =
connected to a charger for some period. The negative terminal sparked =
so we did not. We put it back on the floor where we checked it with the =
multi meter. =20
=20
We also double checked that we had the ground cable to the engine and =
the positive cable to the electrical system. =20
=20
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>=20
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:31 AM
To: dave@ranteer.com; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] what is going on?????
=20
=20
Double checked that we had the ground to the engine and the positive to =
the electrical system.
=20
The multimeter, with the red on the positive terminal and the black on =
the negative, read -9.97
=20
This battery was apparently in the car. Did you check this battery =
right at the terminals?
=20
Dave=20
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2020 10:18 am
Subject: Re: [TR] what is going on?????
Tested the battery out of the car
=20
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [TR] what is going on?????
=20
Did you test directly at the battery terminals?
=20
It is possible to charge a dead battery in the wrong polarity. If the =
battery was complete dead and someone hooked up the charger with the =
polarity reversed (ie: positive charger lead to the NEG battery terminal =
and vice-versa) it will charge up in the wrong polarity. I've seen it =
done.
=20
Many of the smart chargers will not do this. Many will not charge a =
dead battery, but some will and the old style chargers don't care.
=20
Connecting a battery to a car in the reverse polarity will cause all =
manner of problems. It is not recommended.
=20
Dave=20
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2020 8:51 am
Subject: Re: [TR] what is going on?????
Yes. I tested the good battery and it showed 12.7 volts. positive
=20
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TR] what is going on?????
=20
Have you confirmed that the leads are correctly connected at the =
multimeter?
=20
On many modes they can be reversed.
=20
Geo
=20
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 7:57 PM dave <dave@ranteer.com =
We bought a car a few months ago (an 88 jeep actually). Wasn=E2=80=99t =
running or driving, needed some work, battery was dead.
=20
Today we finally got it running and driving using a known good battery =
from another car.
=20
Set the jeep=E2=80=99s battery up on a charger a day or two ago and =
decided to try it in the jeep after all we succeeded in getting it =
running and driving.
=20
Hooked up the positive first, then touching the negative caused a =
spark!!!!
=20
Double checked that we had the ground to the engine and the positive to =
the electrical system.
=20
The multimeter, with the red on the positive terminal and the black on =
the negative, read -9.97
=20
Reversed it and got 9.97.
=20
Checked the good battery =E2=80=93 no, the multimeter is not broken.
=20
Checked the jeep=E2=80=99s old battery again, same results. Good =
battery =E2=80=93 same results (about 12.97)
=20
What is going on???? how is this possible? Yes, we are replacing the =
battery but if someone had told me this story I would have told him he =
must have mixed up the terminals, that its not possible.
=20
Can anyone explain this to me?
=20
And yes, we are replacing the battery
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>No, we =
attempted to put the battery in the car after it had been connected to a =
charger for some period.=C2=A0 The negative terminal sparked so we did =
not. =C2=A0We put it back on the floor where we checked it with the =
multi meter.=C2=A0 =C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>We also =
double checked that we had the ground <b>cable</b> to the engine and the =
positive <b>cable</b> to the electrical system.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY =
<dave1massey@cs.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:31 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> dave@ranteer.com; =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] what is going =
on?????<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
2.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dou=
ble checked that we had the ground to the engine and the positive to the =
electrical system.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
multimeter, with the red on the positive terminal and the black on the =
negative, read =
-9.97<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Thi=
s battery was apparently in the car. Did you check this battery =
right at the terminals?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: dave <<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a>><br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>Se=
nt: Sun, Jun 14, 2020 10:18 am<br>Subject: Re: [TR] what is going =
on?????<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv0701720275><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tes=
ted the battery out of the car<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv0701720275yqt44086><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
DAVID MASSEY <<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>> =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 14, 2020 9:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] what is going =
on?????<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Did=
you test directly at the battery terminals?</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>It =
is possible to charge a dead battery in the wrong polarity. If the =
battery was complete dead and someone hooked up the charger with the =
polarity reversed (ie: positive charger lead to the NEG battery terminal =
and vice-versa) it will charge up in the wrong polarity. I've seen =
it done.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Man=
y of the smart chargers will not do this. Many will not charge a =
dead battery, but some will and the old style chargers don't =
care.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Con=
necting a battery to a car in the reverse polarity will cause all manner =
of problems. It is not recommended.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: dave <<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>><br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2020 =
8:51 am<br>Subject: Re: [TR] what is going =
on?????<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3Dyiv0701720275><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Yes=
. I tested the good battery and it showed 12.7 volts. =
positive</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div id=3Dyiv0701720275yqt86616><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Geo Hahn <<a href=3D"mailto:ahwahneetr@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">ahwahneetr@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, =
June 14, 2020 7:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> dave <<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[TR] what is going on?????</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hav=
e you confirmed that the leads are correctly connected at the =
multimeter?</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
many modes they can be reversed.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Geo=
</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 7:57 PM dave <<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>We =
bought a car a few months ago (an 88 jeep actually). =
Wasn=E2=80=99t running or driving, needed some work, battery was =
dead.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tod=
ay we finally got it running and driving using a known good battery from =
another car.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Set=
the jeep=E2=80=99s battery up on a charger a day or two ago and decided =
to try it in the jeep after all we succeeded in getting it running and =
driving.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hoo=
ked up the positive first, then touching the negative caused a =
spark!!!!</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dou=
ble checked that we had the ground to the engine and the positive to the =
electrical system.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
multimeter, with the red on the positive terminal and the black on the =
negative, read -9.97</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Rev=
ersed it and got 9.97.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Che=
cked the good battery =E2=80=93 no, the multimeter is not =
broken.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Che=
cked the jeep=E2=80=99s old battery again, same results. Good =
battery =E2=80=93 same results (about 12.97)</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Wha=
t is going on???? how is this possible? Yes, we are =
replacing the battery but if someone had told me this story I would have =
told him he must have mixed up the terminals, that its not =
possible.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Can=
anyone explain this to me?</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
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p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>And=
yes, we are replacing the battery</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
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