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Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 13, Issue 33

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Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 13, Issue 33
From: JOSEPH MATO <joemato@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2020 06:54:00 +0000 (UTC)
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Monday 2-10-2020 is National Drive your Triumph Day. Time to fire it up and=
 shake the dust off!
Joe Mato62 Wood RoadRedding, CT 06896917 232 1555=20

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eam.net> wrote: =20
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Today's Topics:

=C2=A0 1. Craigslist (Ron L'Herault)
=C2=A0 2. Fwd: Carlisle Import & Performance (Paul Tegler)
=C2=A0 3. Group 44 Spitfire on eBay (Don Hiscock)
=C2=A0 4. Re: Oil Pan Sealer? (Darrell Walker)
=C2=A0 5. Re: Oil Pan Sealer? (tom boggiano)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:10:41 -0500
From: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault@verizon.net>
To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Craigslist


Facebook Marketplace may be filling the need for a place to sell parts as
well as entire cars.

Ron L



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 23:19:15 -0500
From: Paul Tegler <ptegler@verizon.net>
To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Fwd: Carlisle Import & Performance

Hey all....? invites going out to any spit/GT6er's out there....=20
Carlisle Imports how in May

Even if you're only coming up for the main Saterday show field, list the=20
NA Spit Squadron as

your club and come join us on the field! Any spits/GT6's are welcome to=20
join our growing display!

v/r

ptegler

**

*January Club Leader Update*

*_Carlisle Import and Performance Nationals ? May 15-17 _*

Dear Club Leader,

Hopefully you are staying warm and enjoyed the holidays!? Before you=20
know it we will once again be in car show season.? Here at Carlisle=20
Events, we are getting ready for what will hopefully be another great=20
event and we have some exciting stuff for you to share with your club.?=20
We also have some new clubs to welcome since the last club leader update.

*_Carlisle Import and Performance Nationals Supports Driven to Cure in=20
2020!_*

As you may have seen right before the holidays, we are working with=20
Driven to Cure to organize a memorial show within our show for its=20
founder, Andrew Lee. Driven to Cure will have a display in Building Y=20
and a dedicated Showfield near the pavilion for their show within our=20
own show.? Find out more in the following link:=20
https://www.carlisleevents.com/events/events-detail/index?id=3Dimport+and+p=
erformance+nationals&urlname=3Dsupport-the-cause-in-2020=20
<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ca=
rlisleevents.com%2Fevents%2Fevents-detail%2Findex%3Fid%3Dimport%2Band%2Bper=
formance%2Bnationals%26urlname%3Dsupport-the-cause-in-2020&data=3D02%7C01%7=
CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8b=
e4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607682427&sdata=3DnuXWvKYpsZNS5GJW=
q81qaF2dmSYpeXt7fYrjd76Azak%3D&reserved=3D0>*__*

*__*

*_2020 Displays Announced:_*

We will be hosting a number of displays, anniversaries, and reunions=20
this year.? They are as follows:

=C2=A0 * 100 Years of Mazda in Building T
=C2=A0 * 50 Years of BBS in Building T
=C2=A0 * 50 Years of the Nissan Z / Datsun Z in Building T
=C2=A0 * The Annual Race Paddock in the Pavilion
=C2=A0 * Renault of Canada and Cars of Robert Opron (Citroens & Renaults) i=
n
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Building R

Applications are now being accepted through Early March.? Those who wish=20
to apply can do so on www.CarlisleFeatures.com=20
<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.Car=
lisleFeatures.com&data=3D02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4=
411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134=
607692416&sdata=3DsPaLXZsMXkKhGWe%2BVzzHClCkbwp1n25aYTF%2BhSN7%2FI8%3D&rese=
rved=3D0>.=20


*_2020 Club Planning Packets and Tent Forms Now Available Online!_*

To avoid club tent forms from ending up in Spam Folders, we have now=20
released them to be downloaded from the following links:

For Clubs that Met the 25 Car Requirement for a Free Tent Last Year=20
please use this form:

https://www.carlisleevents.com/docs/default-source/import-performance-natio=
nals/carlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-free.pdf=20
<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ca=
rlisleevents.com%2Fdocs%2Fdefault-source%2Fimport-performance-nationals%2Fc=
arlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-free.pdf&data=3D02%7C01%7CKenA%40carli=
sleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb065=
2487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607692416&sdata=3D38YieP1eQ6OfRB%2FasELoYCPUs5y=
EOSl5B0Js%2F84WWnQ%3D&reserved=3D0>

__

For Clubs that did not hit the 25 Car Requirement and new clubs, please=20
use this form for the $180 Tent Rental:

https://www.carlisleeventscom/docs/default-source/import-performance-nation=
als/carlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-180.pdf=20
<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ca=
rlisleevents.com%2Fdocs%2Fdefault-source%2Fimport-performance-nationals%2Fc=
arlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-180.pdf&data=3D02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlis=
leevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652=
487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607702407&sdata=3DDdKnDkbwjYKFip8eItlxIFuWdvVZpu=
0lRQ0rT40%2BP2k%3D&reserved=3D0>

__

If you?re unsure if your club hit 25 Cars in 2019, please feel free to=20
reach out to me and we can look at your registrations.

*_2020 Import and Performance Nationals Flyers Available!_*

If you and/or your club would like a box of Carlisle Import and=20
Performance Nationals flyers sent to you, please reply to this email=20
with your mailing address and count needed.? These are not only great=20
for keeping your members in the loop on your attendance at the show=20
during club meetings but also for goody bag inserts for your club?s show=20
or upcoming meet!? We have a couple thousand in stock right now so feel=20
free to reach out.

*_New Track Activity Coming Soon!_*

Thanks to many survey responses over the off-season, 2020 will see new=20
track activities and you don?t have to have a racecar to compete!? Keep=20
an eye on our social media feeds and our website for the coming release!

*_We want to connect with your Club?s Facebook Pages and Events!_*

There is no denying Facebook has become a medium that many of you and=20
your members use to communicate on daily basis.? We want to connect our=20
page with your club and your club?s Event Page for the Import and=20
Performance Nationals.? Our social media team is looking to connect so=20
your club has the latest info and can answer questions quickly for you.?=20
If you have a club Facebook Page or Group, please share it with=20
include you in this program.? This includes your Carlisle Import and=20
Performance Nationals Facebook events that many of you have already setup!

In closing and as always, if you have any questions comments or=20
concerns, my door is always open.? Feel free to reach out via email or=20
phone as well as stop in if you are in the area.? We are here to make=20
sure your club has the best time possible at our event!

Thank you and I look forward to seeing you in May!!

Ed

*email-logo***

*Ed Buczeskie*| /Event Manager/


Office: *717-243-7855 x131*

Fax: *717-243-0255*

1000 Bryn Mawr Road, Carlisle PA 17013

*CarlisleEvents.com <http://www.carlisleevents.com/>*|=20
*CarlisleAuctions.com <http://www.carlisleauctions.com/>*

**

Event Schedule <http://www.carlisleevents.com/pdf/Event-Schedule.pdf> |=20
Facebook=20
<http://www.carlisleevents.com/join-the-conversation/default.aspx>|Twitter=
=20
<https://twitter.com/CarlisleEvents>|YouTube=20
<https://www.youtube.com/user/CarProDotCom/videos>| Event Photos=20
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/carlisle-events/sets>

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 06:16:30 -0600
From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
To: Triumphs <Triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Group 44 Spitfire on eBay
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAPK7CFDiu4MTx7V4-cnFa1cJgkbMpuY7-eiTGCAH3xthF0Ujtg@mai=
l.gmail.com>

For everyone's info.=C2=A0 This is a fun one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124069288168
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 15:02:16 -0800
From: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com>
To: Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, bill beecher <bill_beecher@flash.net>,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>, aljlthomson@charter.n=
et
Subject: Re: [TR] Oil Pan Sealer?



> On Feb 5, 2020, at 2:47 PM, Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>=20
> I know Justin Wagner tried to do a silicone TR2-4 pan gasket, and it didn=
't work out. Not sure what the issue was. He did mention the need for steel=
 inserts to keep the gasket from being crushed, which might mean a thicker =
gasket and problems with things that bolt to the bottom of the pan (like th=
e clutch slave brace). But that's just a guess, I never heard the details.
> ? Randall


I actually have one of Justin?s gaskets on my car.=C2=A0 It came with some =
spring-loaded bolts (Thackary?) and safety wire.=C2=A0 It seems to work wel=
l.=C2=A0 Mine is on an alloy sump.=C2=A0 I don?t think he ever made/sold ma=
ny.

-Darrell

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 18:16:20 -0500
From: tom boggiano <tboggiano@gmail.com>
To: Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>
Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net, bill beecher <bill_beecher@flash.net>,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>, aljlthomson@charter.n=
et
Subject: Re: [TR] Oil Pan Sealer?

I had on of Justin?s sump gaskets.=C2=A0 There were a couple of challenges =
You could not over tighten the bolts and therefore there was a safety wire =
that had to be used to keep the bolts from backing out=20

The pan is a bit lower and the slave cylinder bracket was not quite right=
=20

But, the kit came with all the parts to install and it took care of the non=
 flat pan issues I had.=C2=A0=20

Tom



> On Feb 5, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>=20
> ?I know Justin Wagner tried to do a silicone TR2-4 pan gasket, and it did=
n't work out. Not sure what the issue was. He did mention the need for stee=
l inserts to keep the gasket from being crushed, which might mean a thicker=
 gasket and problems with things that bolt to the bottom of the pan (like t=
he clutch slave brace). But that's just a guess, I never heard the details.
> -- Randall
>=20
>> On 5 February 2020 07:21:52 GMT-08:00, bill beecher <bill_beecher@flash.=
net> wrote:
>> Thanks Dave, I was thinking about Joe too.=C2=A0 Joe, how about it?
>> Bill
>>=C2=A0=20
>> From: DAVID MASSEY [mailto:dave1massey@cs.com]=20
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:26 AM
>> To: aljlthomson@charter.net; bill_beecher@flash.net; triumphs@autox.team=
.net
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil Pan Sealer?
>>=C2=A0=20
>> A couple advisories about using RTV that I have picked up over the years=
.=20
>>=C2=A0=20
>> Not all RTV sealants are the same.=C2=A0 Some are oil resistant and othe=
rs are not.=C2=A0 "Automotive" RTV may not be oil resistant and are intende=
d for sealing windshields and such.=C2=A0 Check the manufacturer's website.=
=C2=A0 Ultra Black, I believe, is oil resistant.=C2=A0 None, as far as I kn=
ow, are gasoline resistant.
>>=C2=A0=20
>> When=C2=A0 using RTV sealants, apply an even bead and assemble the parts=
 loosely and let the sealant partially set before tightening.=C2=A0 This wi=
ll reduce the tendency for the sealant to ooze out strings and dingleberrie=
s which can clog the oil passages in the engine causing all manner of expen=
sive problems.
>>=C2=A0=20
>> When using RTV in the absence of a gasket lay a piece of thread or strin=
g along the joint to prevent metal-to-metal contact ensuring that there is =
a layer of sealant at all points along the joint.
>>=C2=A0=20
>>=C2=A0=20
>> As for me, I prefer to use Formagasket #2 on one side to stick the gaske=
t (more or less) permanently to one part and Hylomar non hardening to allow=
 for easy removal/resintallation.=C2=A0 Until Joe Alexander produces a sili=
cone sump gasket I will continue to do so.=C2=A0 ;-)
>>=C2=A0=20
>> Dave
>>=20
>>=C2=A0=20
>>=C2=A0=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net>
>> To: 'bill beecher' <bill_beecher@flash.net>; 'Triumphs' <triumphs@autox.=
team.net>
>> Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2020 7:18 pm
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil Pan Sealer?
>>=20
>> I have had good results with Permatex ?Ultra Black? gasket maker. Part #=
 82180. I seem to remember that years ago, there was only Permatex #1 which=
 was hardening and #2 which remained slightly pliable. Now, it seems that t=
here is a gasket goop for white cars travelling north with 6 cyl. engines, =
a different product for dark color cars travelling east with 4 cyl. engines=
,=C2=A0 etc., etc. The choices on the rack at the local NAPA store can be o=
verwhelming, just like the varieties of Loctite that you can buy.
>>=C2=A0=20
>> I have found that many gaskets for tractor restoration are no longer ava=
ilable from anyone and that the gasket-in-a-tube is the only alternative. S=
ometimes, it is one casting being sealed against another casting ? in those=
 cases, a very small bead is needed. When there is a pressed steel cover be=
ing assembled to a casting, you know that there will be much more of a chan=
ce for a warped or bent interface which will require a thicker bead. But we=
 all know that many engine and other drivetrain problems are the result of =
excess gasket goop becoming entangled into suction screens, bearings, oil g=
alleries and other places. Truthfully, I always get very nervous when I am =
repairing somebody?s tractor or whatever and I see ribbons of blue RTV seal=
er inside of a compartment. I?m sure that many leaks are the result of defo=
rmed oil pans, valve covers, tappet covers, etc. due to a previous ?mechani=
c? overtightening bolts. ?If 20 ft.-lbs. are good, then 40 must be better? =
Unless you have access=20
 to a granite or cast iron surface plate, it can be difficult to determine =
if an oil pan is warped. Years ago when I was teaching in the shop, I would=
 use the surface of our big table saw (all cast iron) as a makeshift surfac=
e plate when checking small parts for flatness.
>>=C2=A0=20
>> Alex Thomson
>>=C2=A0=20
>> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bil=
l beecher
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 7:32 PM
>> To: 'Triumphs'
>> Subject: [TR] Oil Pan Sealer?
>>=C2=A0=20
>> Replacing the TR3 oil pan after a fresh powder coating and wondering abo=
ut the best sealer.=C2=A0 My first thought is a bead of RTV on each side of=
 the gasket, what is the collective wisdom of the List on this?=C2=A0 BTW, =
both surfaces are in excellent condition.
>>=C2=A0=20
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>> TS30800L
>>=C2=A0=20
> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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v><div class=3D"ydp3e8118eesignature">Joe Mato<div>62 Wood Road</div><div>R=
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t)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  2. Fwd: Carlisle Import &amp; Performa=
nce (Paul Tegler)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  3. Group 44 Spitfire on=
 eBay (Don Hiscock)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  4. Re: Oil Pan Sealer=
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iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [TR] Craigslist<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mess=
age-ID: &lt;008301d5dd21$205861a0$610924e0$@net&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Content-Type: text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Fa=
cebook Marketplace may be filling the need for a place to sell parts as<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">well as entire cars.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron L<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">---------------=
---------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Messag=
e: 2<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 23:19:15 -0500<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Paul Tegler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ptegler@verizon.=
net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">ptegler@verizon.net</a>&gt;<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">To: "<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"n=
ofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [TR] Fwd: Carlisle I=
mport &amp; Performance<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:d2d0635b-f072-a5b2-01bf-38ea89b1fcae@verizon.net"; rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank">d2d0635b-f072-a5b2-01bf-38ea89b1fcae@verizon.net</a>&g=
t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1=
252"; Format=3D"flowed"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Hey all....? invites going out to any spit/GT6er's out there.... <br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Carlisle Imports how in May<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Even if you're only coming up for the main Saterda=
y show field, list the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">NA Spit Squadron as<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">your club and come join us =
on the field! Any spits/GT6's are welcome to <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">joi=
n our growing display!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>v/r<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">ptegler<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">**<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">*January Club Leader Update*<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">*_Carlisle Import and Performance Nationals=
 ? May 15-17 _*<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dear C=
lub Leader,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hopefully =
you are staying warm and enjoyed the holidays!? Before you <br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">know it we will once again be in car show season.? Here at Carli=
sle <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Events, we are getting ready for what will h=
opefully be another great <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">event and we have some=
 exciting stuff for you to share with your club.? <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">We also have some new clubs to welcome since the last club leader update.=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">*_Carlisle Import and=
 Performance Nationals Supports Driven to Cure in <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">2020!_*<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">As you may h=
ave seen right before the holidays, we are working with <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Driven to Cure to organize a memorial show within our show for its=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">founder, Andrew Lee. Driven to Cure will have a=
 display in Building Y <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and a dedicated Showfield=
 near the pavilion for their show within our <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">own=
 show.? Find out more in the following link: <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a =
href=3D"https://www.carlisleevents.com/events/events-detail/index?id=3Dimpo=
rt+and+performance+nationals&amp;urlname=3Dsupport-the-cause-in-2020 " rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.carlisleevents.com/events/event=
s-detail/index?id=3Dimport+and+performance+nationals&amp;urlname=3Dsupport-=
the-cause-in-2020 </a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"https://nam=
02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlisleevents=
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ationals%26urlname%3Dsupport-the-cause-in-2020&amp;data=3D02%7C01%7CKenA%40=
carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bba=
cb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607682427&amp;sdata=3DnuXWvKYpsZNS5GJWq81q=
aF2dmSYpeXt7fYrjd76Azak%3D&amp;reserved=3D0" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fww=
w.carlisleevents.com%2Fevents%2Fevents-detail%2Findex%3Fid%3Dimport%2Band%2=
Bperformance%2Bnationals%26urlname%3Dsupport-the-cause-in-2020&amp;data=3D0=
2%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391=
f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607682427&amp;sdata=3DnuXW=
vKYpsZNS5GJWq81qaF2dmSYpeXt7fYrjd76Azak%3D&amp;reserved=3D0</a>&gt;*__*<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">*__*<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">*_2020 Displays Announced:_*<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">We will be hosting a number of disp=
lays, anniversaries, and reunions <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">this year.? Th=
ey are as follows:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nb=
sp; * 100 Years of Mazda in Building T<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; * 5=
0 Years of BBS in Building T<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; * 50 Years of=
 the Nissan Z / Datsun Z in Building T<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; * T=
he Annual Race Paddock in the Pavilion<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; * R=
enault of Canada and Cars of Robert Opron (Citroens &amp; Renaults) in<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; Building R<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Applications are now being accepted through Early =
March.? Those who wish <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">to apply can do so on www=
.CarlisleFeatures.com <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"https://nam=
02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.CarlisleFeature=
s.com&amp;data=3D02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec4=
08d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C63714613460769241=
6&amp;sdata=3DsPaLXZsMXkKhGWe%2BVzzHClCkbwp1n25aYTF%2BhSN7%2FI8%3D&amp;rese=
rved=3D0" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://nam02.safelinks.protec=
tion.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.CarlisleFeatures.com&amp;data=3D02=
%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f=
7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607692416&amp;sdata=3DsPaLX=
ZsMXkKhGWe%2BVzzHClCkbwp1n25aYTF%2BhSN7%2FI8%3D&amp;reserved=3D0</a>&gt;. <=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">*_2020 Club Planning Packets and Tent Forms Now Available Online!_*<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To avoid club tent forms=
 from ending up in Spam Folders, we have now <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">rel=
eased them to be downloaded from the following links:<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">For Clubs that Met the 25 Car Requirement f=
or a Free Tent Last Year <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">please use this form:<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://www.=
carlisleevents.com/docs/default-source/import-performance-nationals/carlisl=
e-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-free.pdf " rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank=
">https://www.carlisleevents.com/docs/default-source/import-performance-nat=
ionals/carlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-free.pdf </a><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?ur=
l=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlisleevents.com%2Fdocs%2Fdefault-source%2Fimport-p=
erformance-nationals%2Fcarlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-free.pdf&amp;d=
ata=3D02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3=
d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607692416&amp;sdata=
=3D38YieP1eQ6OfRB%2FasELoYCPUs5yEOSl5B0Js%2F84WWnQ%3D&amp;reserved=3D0" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.=
com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlisleevents.com%2Fdocs%2Fdefault-source%2Fi=
mport-performance-nationals%2Fcarlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-free.pd=
f&amp;data=3D02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d7=
99089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607692416&am=
p;sdata=3D38YieP1eQ6OfRB%2FasELoYCPUs5yEOSl5B0Js%2F84WWnQ%3D&amp;reserved=
=3D0</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">__<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">For Clubs that did not hit t=
he 25 Car Requirement and new clubs, please <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">use =
this form for the $180 Tent Rental:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://www.carlisleeventscom/docs/default-source/=
import-performance-nationals/carlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-180.pdf =
" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.carlisleeventscom/docs/def=
ault-source/import-performance-nationals/carlisle-events-club-planning-kit-=
ipn-180.pdf </a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"https://nam02.saf=
elinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlisleevents.com%2=
Fdocs%2Fdefault-source%2Fimport-performance-nationals%2Fcarlisle-events-clu=
b-planning-kit-ipn-180.pdf&amp;data=3D02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7=
Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C=
1%7C637146134607702407&amp;sdata=3DDdKnDkbwjYKFip8eItlxIFuWdvVZpu0lRQ0rT40%=
2BP2k%3D&amp;reserved=3D0" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://nam02=
.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlisleevents.c=
om%2Fdocs%2Fdefault-source%2Fimport-performance-nationals%2Fcarlisle-events=
-club-planning-kit-ipn-180.pdf&amp;data=3D02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.c=
om%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C=
0%7C1%7C637146134607702407&amp;sdata=3DDdKnDkbwjYKFip8eItlxIFuWdvVZpu0lRQ0r=
T40%2BP2k%3D&amp;reserved=3D0</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">__<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">If =
you?re unsure if your club hit 25 Cars in 2019, please feel free to <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">reach out to me and we can look at your registrations.<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">*_2020 Import and Perf=
ormance Nationals Flyers Available!_*<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">If you and/or your club would like a box of Carlisle Import=
 and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Performance Nationals flyers sent to you, p=
lease reply to this email <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">with your mailing addr=
ess and count needed.? These are not only great <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
for keeping your members in the loop on your attendance at the show <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">during club meetings but also for goody bag inserts for=
 your club?s show <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">or upcoming meet!? We have a c=
ouple thousand in stock right now so feel <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">free t=
o reach out.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">*_New Tra=
ck Activity Coming Soon!_*<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Thanks to many survey responses over the off-season, 2020 will see new=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">track activities and you don?t have to have a r=
acecar to compete!? Keep <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">an eye on our social me=
dia feeds and our website for the coming release!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">*_We want to connect with your Club?s Facebook =
Pages and Events!_*<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Th=
ere is no denying Facebook has become a medium that many of you and <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">your members use to communicate on daily basis.? We wan=
t to connect our <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">page with your club and your cl=
ub?s Event Page for the Import and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Performance N=
ationals.? Our social media team is looking to connect so <br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">your club has the latest info and can answer questions quickly fo=
r you.? <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">If you have a club Facebook Page or Grou=
p, please share it with <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"mailto:Clubs@=
CarlisleEvents.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Clubs@CarlisleEvents=
.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Clubs@CarlisleEvents.com"; rel=3D"nofo=
llow" target=3D"_blank">Clubs@CarlisleEvents.com</a>&gt; so we can <br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">include you in this program.? This includes your Carlisl=
e Import and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Performance Nationals Facebook even=
ts that many of you have already setup!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">In closing and as always, if you have any questions comme=
nts or <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">concerns, my door is always open.? Feel f=
ree to reach out via email or <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">phone as well as s=
top in if you are in the area.? We are here to make <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">sure your club has the best time possible at our event!<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you and I look forward to seein=
g you in May!!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ed<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">*email-logo***<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">*Ed Buczeskie*| /Event Manager/<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Email: <a href=3D"mailt=
o:EdB@CarlisleEvents.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">EdB@CarlisleEv=
ents.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:edb@carlisleevents.com"; rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank">edb@carlisleevents.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Office: *717-243-7855 x131*<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Fax: *717-243-0255*<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">1000 Bryn Mawr Road, Carlisle PA 17=
013<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">*CarlisleEvents.co=
m &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.carlisleevents.com/"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D=
"_blank">http://www.carlisleevents.com/</a>&gt;*| <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">*CarlisleAuctions.com &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.carlisleauctions.com/"; re=
l=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.carlisleauctions.com/</a>&gt;*<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">**<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Event Schedule &lt;<a href=3D"http://ww=
w.carlisleevents.com/pdf/Event-Schedule.pdf" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.carlisleevents.com/pdf/Event-Schedule.pdf</a>&gt; | <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Facebook <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"http=
://www.carlisleevents.com/join-the-conversation/default.aspx" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.carlisleevents.com/join-the-conversation/d=
efault.aspx</a>&gt;|Twitter <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"https=
://twitter.com/CarlisleEvents" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://t=
witter.com/CarlisleEvents</a>&gt;|YouTube <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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| Event Photos <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"https://www.flickr=
.com/photos/carlisle-events/sets" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https:=
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ir=3D"ltr">Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 06:16:30 -0600<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">F=
rom: Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" target=3D"_blank">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">To: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofol=
low" target=3D"_blank">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Subject: [TR] Group 44 Spitfire on eBay<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mes=
sage-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:CAPK7CFDiu4MTx7V4-cnFa1cJgkbMpuY7-eiTGCAH3xthF0Ujtg@mail.gmail.com" rel=3D=
"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">CAPK7CFDiu4MTx7V4-cnFa1cJgkbMpuY7-eiTGCAH3xthF=
0Ujtg@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/p=
lain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">For everyone's info.&nbsp; This is a fun one.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
a href=3D"https://www.ebay.com/itm/124069288168"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D=
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dir=3D"ltr">From: Darrell Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:darrellw360@mac.com"=
 rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">darrellw360@mac.com</a>&gt;<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">To: Randall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com"; rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>, bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:bill_beecher@flash.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">bill_beec=
her@flash.net</a>&gt;,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DAVID M=
ASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"=
_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt;, <a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.n=
et" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Oil Pan Sealer?<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6F7D0F84-320B-44ED-81DD-A63B7A2E1DC9@m=
ac.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">6F7D0F84-320B-44ED-81DD-A63B7A2E=
1DC9@mac.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; ch=
arset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Feb 5, 2020, at 2:4=
7 PM, Randall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank">tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I know Justin Wagner tried to do a =
silicone TR2-4 pan gasket, and it didn't work out. Not sure what the issue =
was. He did mention the need for steel inserts to keep the gasket from bein=
g crushed, which might mean a thicker gasket and problems with things that =
bolt to the bottom of the pan (like the clutch slave brace). But that's jus=
t a guess, I never heard the details.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ? Rand=
all<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I actually have one of Justin?s gaskets on my car.&nbsp; It came w=
ith some spring-loaded bolts (Thackary?) and safety wire.&nbsp; It seems to=
 work well.&nbsp; Mine is on an alloy sump.&nbsp; I don?t think he ever mad=
e/sold many.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-Darrell<=
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v><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 5<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Wed, 5 Feb 20=
20 18:16:20 -0500<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: tom boggiano &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:tboggiano@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tboggian=
o@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Randall &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">TR3driver@ca.r=
r.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:Triumphs@auto=
x.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a>,=
 bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bill_beecher@flash.net"; rel=3D"nofollow=
" target=3D"_blank">bill_beecher@flash.net</a>&gt;,<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com=
" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt;, <a href=3D=
"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">aljltho=
mson@charter.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Oil Pan Se=
aler?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:DB10C16E-=
8B22-472A-BC0D-3B19ED709966@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">D=
B10C16E-8B22-472A-BC0D-3B19ED709966@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I had on of Justin?s sump gaskets.&nbsp; There w=
ere a couple of challenges You could not over tighten the bolts and therefo=
re there was a safety wire that had to be used to keep the bolts from backi=
ng out <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The pan is a b=
it lower and the slave cylinder bracket was not quite right <br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">But, the kit came with all the parts=
 to install and it took care of the non flat pan issues I had.&nbsp; <br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Tom<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; On Feb 5, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Randall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:TR3=
driver@ca.rr.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 ?I know Justin Wagner tried to do a silicone TR2-4 pan gasket, and it didn=
't work out. Not sure what the issue was. He did mention the need for steel=
 inserts to keep the gasket from being crushed, which might mean a thicker =
gasket and problems with things that bolt to the bottom of the pan (like th=
e clutch slave brace). But that's just a guess, I never heard the details.<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; -- Randall<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; On 5 February 2020 07:21:52 GMT-08:00, bi=
ll beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bill_beecher@flash.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank">bill_beecher@flash.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt;&gt; Thanks Dave, I was thinking about Joe too.&nbsp; Joe, how ab=
out it?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Bill<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; From: DAVID MASSEY [mailt=
o:<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
dave1massey@cs.com</a>] <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Sent: Wednesday=
, February 5, 2020 7:26 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; To: <a href=
=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">aljl=
thomson@charter.net</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:bill_beecher@flash.net"; rel=3D"n=
ofollow" target=3D"_blank">bill_beecher@flash.net</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:tr=
iumphs@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.te=
am.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Oil Pan Sea=
ler?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;&gt; A couple advisories about using RTV that I have picked up over the y=
ears. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt;&gt; Not all RTV sealants are the same.&nbsp; Some are oil resistant an=
d others are not.&nbsp; "Automotive" RTV may not be oil resistant and are i=
ntended for sealing windshields and such.&nbsp; Check the manufacturer's we=
bsite.&nbsp; Ultra Black, I believe, is oil resistant.&nbsp; None, as far a=
s I know, are gasoline resistant.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; When&nbsp; using RTV sealants, apply an=
 even bead and assemble the parts loosely and let the sealant partially set=
 before tightening.&nbsp; This will reduce the tendency for the sealant to =
ooze out strings and dingleberries which can clog the oil passages in the e=
ngine causing all manner of expensive problems.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; When using RTV in the abs=
ence of a gasket lay a piece of thread or string along the joint to prevent=
 metal-to-metal contact ensuring that there is a layer of sealant at all po=
ints along the joint.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; As for me=
, I prefer to use Formagasket #2 on one side to stick the gasket (more or l=
ess) permanently to one part and Hylomar non hardening to allow for easy re=
moval/resintallation.&nbsp; Until Joe Alexander produces a silicone sump ga=
sket I will continue to do so.&nbsp; ;-)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;=
&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Dave<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-=
----<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; From: Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blan=
k">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; To: '=
bill beecher' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bill_beecher@flash.net"; rel=3D"nofollow=
" target=3D"_blank">bill_beecher@flash.net</a>&gt;; 'Triumphs' &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triu=
mphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Sent: Tue, F=
eb 4, 2020 7:18 pm<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Oil=
 Pan Sealer?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt;&gt; I have had good results with Permatex ?Ultra Black? gasket maker. =
Part # 82180. I seem to remember that years ago, there was only Permatex #1=
 which was hardening and #2 which remained slightly pliable. Now, it seems =
that there is a gasket goop for white cars travelling north with 6 cyl. eng=
ines, a different product for dark color cars travelling east with 4 cyl. e=
ngines,&nbsp; etc., etc. The choices on the rack at the local NAPA store ca=
n be overwhelming, just like the varieties of Loctite that you can buy.<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I=
 have found that many gaskets for tractor restoration are no longer availab=
le from anyone and that the gasket-in-a-tube is the only alternative. Somet=
imes, it is one casting being sealed against another casting ? in those cas=
es, a very small bead is needed. When there is a pressed steel cover being =
assembled to a casting, you know that there will be much more of a chance f=
or a warped or bent interface which will require a thicker bead. But we all=
 know that many engine and other drivetrain problems are the result of exce=
ss gasket goop becoming entangled into suction screens, bearings, oil galle=
ries and other places. Truthfully, I always get very nervous when I am repa=
iring somebody?s tractor or whatever and I see ribbons of blue RTV sealer i=
nside of a compartment. I?m sure that many leaks are the result of deformed=
 oil pans, valve covers, tappet covers, etc. due to a previous ?mechanic? o=
vertightening bolts. ?If 20 ft.-lbs. are good, then 40 must be better? Unle=
ss you have access <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> to a granite or cast iron su=
rface plate, it can be difficult to determine if an oil pan is warped. Year=
s ago when I was teaching in the shop, I would use the surface of our big t=
able saw (all cast iron) as a makeshift surface plate when checking small p=
arts for flatness.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Alex Thomson<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; From: Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailt=
o:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">trium=
phs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of bill beecher<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 7:32 PM<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; To: 'Triumphs'<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Subjec=
t: [TR] Oil Pan Sealer?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Replacing the TR3 oil pan after a fresh powder co=
ating and wondering about the best sealer.&nbsp; My first thought is a bead=
 of RTV on each side of the gasket, what is the collective wisdom of the Li=
st on this?&nbsp;  BTW, both surfaces are in excellent condition.<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Thanks,=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Bill<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;=
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