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Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 engine question
From: David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 07:42:10 -0700
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hope you try flooring the gas pedal at switch off too, might work and 
won't put stress on the drive train components...dp

On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Jim Henningsen wrote:
>
> Thank you all for the great feedback on the engine run-on.  Will test 
> and use the clutch technique until I get it resolved.  Jim
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *wbeech
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:31 PM
> *To:* 'dave' <dave@ranteer.com>; Triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] TR4 engine question
>
> Good advice Dave, I will upgrade the gasoline for this car.  I know 
> Barney, the MGA Guru, good guy that knows his stuff, lots of very 
> helpful info and test procedures on his site.
>
> Bill B
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf 
> Of *dave
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2019 9:21 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] TR4 engine question
>
> I am by no means the best mechanic, but I can tell you this advice is 
> just wrong.  You are band aiding the problem.  I would try a higher 
> grade gas, or maybe even just getting out on the freeway and trying to 
> burn off the carbon deposits.  Possibly retarding or advancing the 
> timing? These cars donâ??t necessarily do that, and if yours does there 
> is a solution.
>
> Here is a guy who knows what heâ??s talking about: 
> http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/engine/ro101.htm
>
> Its not a Triumph, but itâ??s the same concept
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2019 6:34 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] TR4 engine question
>
> First off, congratulations on your win.
>
> Secondly, do what I do.  Put the car in fourth gear and let the clutch 
> out as you switch off.  Be sure to set the brake first.  My TR6 
> diesels even with the anti-run-on valve. So does the TR3.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2019 9:41 pm
> Subject: [TR] TR4 engine question
>
> Fresh TR4 engine that does that "dieseling" thing after you turn off the
>
> key It like it tries to keep running but with a cough and then stops.  The
>
> TR6 has an anti-run on valve to help with that.  What do I treat on a TR4
>
> motor? P.S.  So proud that after 8 years putting my 4 back together stock,
>
> I won first place in the sports car group at the AACC winter national.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim Henningsen
>
> Ocala, FL
>
> 61 TR3A
>
> 62 TR4
>
> 75 TR6
>
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    <p>hope you try flooring the gas pedal at switch off too, might work
      and won't put stress on the drive train components...dp<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Jim Henningsen
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you all for the great feedback on the
          engine run-on.  Will test and use the clutch technique until I
          get it resolved.  Jim<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
 <b>On Behalf Of </b>wbeech<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:31 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> 'dave' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>&lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt;</a>;
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net";>Triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR4 engine question<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Good advice
            Dave, I will upgrade the gasoline for this car.  I know
            Barney, the MGA Guru, good guy that knows his stuff, lots of
            very helpful info and test procedures on his 
site.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Bill 
B<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs [<a
                href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";
                
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>dave<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 26, 2019 9:21 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net";
                moz-do-not-send="true">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR4 engine question<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I am by no means the best mechanic, but I
          can tell you this advice is just wrong.  You are band aiding
          the problem.  I would try a higher grade gas, or maybe even
          just getting out on the freeway and trying to burn off the
          carbon deposits.  Possibly retarding or advancing the timing? 
          These cars donâ??t necessarily do that, and if yours does there
          is a solution.  <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Here is a guy who knows what heâ??s talking
          about:  <a href="http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/engine/ro101.htm";
            
moz-do-not-send="true">http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/engine/ro101.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Its not a Triumph, but itâ??s the same
          concept<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a
            href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";
            moz-do-not-send="true">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          <b>On Behalf Of </b>DAVID MASSEY<br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 26, 2019 6:34 AM<br>
          <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:trguy75@gmail.com";
            moz-do-not-send="true">trguy75@gmail.com</a>; <a
            href="mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR4 engine question<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">First
              off, congratulations on your win.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Secondly,
              do what I do.  Put the car in fourth gear and let the
              clutch out as you switch off.  Be sure to set the brake
              first.  My TR6 diesels even with the anti-run-on valve. 
              So does the TR3.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Dave
            </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">-----Original
              Message-----<br>
              From: Jim Henningsen &lt;<a
                href="mailto:trguy75@gmail.com"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">trguy75@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
              To: 'triumphs' &lt;<a
                href="mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net";
                moz-do-not-send="true">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
              Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2019 9:41 pm<br>
              Subject: [TR] TR4 engine question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Fresh
                TR4 engine that does that "dieseling" thing after you
                turn off the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">key 
                It like it tries to keep running but with a cough and
                then stops.  The<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">TR6
                has an anti-run on valve to help with that.  What do I
                treat on a TR4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">motor? 
                P.S.  So proud that after 8 years putting my 4 back
                together stock,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I
                won first place in the sports car group at the AACC
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