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Re: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)

To: Art McEwen <amcewen2@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)
From: "Wbeech@flash.net" <wbeech@flash.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 12:19:01 -0500
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
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Explain all that to Moss, they have mis-informed me a couple times in the pa=
st and they refunded my return shipping.=20
Bill B

Sent from my Handspring Treo

On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Art McEwen <amcewen2@cogeco.ca> wrote:

Well Moss has a lt lead that will work with that plate but when I go to swit=
ch the 1 month old points/condenser from the old plate to the new one I find=
 the new one doesn't have a pivot post for the points assembly  grr.

So now I have to pay shipping for new points ('cause they didn't tell me tha=
t when they explained the plate difference).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/locovgzt497v9zg/IMG_0782.JPG?dl=3D0


> On 10/15/18, "Art McEwen" <amcewen2@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> Thanks Randall,
>=20
> Yes they sent me LU422318 according to the packaging.   It appears from br=
itishvacuumunit.com that that part along with LU54413549 (moss 153-640) migh=
t work, although it's not clear from any of the photos if that terminal conn=
ector is meant to fit *over* the fork of LU421078 or *instead* of the fork.=20=

>=20
> To further complicate things the internal contacts on my "up style" distri=
butor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sideways style unit I pic=
ked up somewhere, but that means new leads.  sigh....
>=20
> Art
> =20
>> On 10/15/18, Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>> 40480D is an earlier model DM2P4 distributor.  The information I have han=
dy
>> says 40480F (which is functionally the same and still DM2P4, the letter i=
s
>> just a revision level) was used as late as 1959 TR3, some of which were s=
old
>> in 1960.
>>=20
>> That same database says cars built in 1960 got 40698A/B, which is still a=

>> DM2P4.
>>=20
>> The Moss catalog is certainly misleading, as they show a drawing of the
>> plate for a DM2P4, but the listing says it is for a 25D4.  They have no
>> listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not available). =
 I
>> believe the equivalent part number at TRF would be LU421078, which they h=
ave
>> listed as NLA.  You might check with Revington, he seems to source a lot o=
f
>> parts the others can't find.
>>=20
>> Faced with that same dilemma some years ago, I fabricated a mount for the=

>> low tension lead that worked quite well.  Just a stack of pieces of bare
>> fiberglass printed circuit board (from the scrap bin, no copper plating),=

>> carved with a Dremel to fit snug but not too tight in the slot in the
>> distributor cap.  A small bolt through the center linked the two wires.
>> IIRC I used 3 pieces of PC board, one smaller to fit inside the notch and=

>> two slightly larger to fit on either side of the notch.  A little extra w=
ork
>> to install the cap, as I had to hold the side wire to position the new pi=
ece
>> in the slot, as I lowered the cap into place, but not too bad.
>>=20
>> Later, I switched to a (used) 25D4 distributor.
>>=20
>> -- Randall =20
>>=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On=20
>> > Behalf Of Art McEwen
>> > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 7:19 PM
>> > To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>> > Subject: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)
>> >=20
>> >  Hi =20
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> > The backing plate on my TR3's distributor has a lot of play=20
>> > in it so timing is problematic.  I ordered a new one from=20
>> > Moss however that part (551-055) doesn't have the same tall=20
>> > attachment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap=20
>> > (see old unit on the left):=20
>> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_1038057
>> > 63.jpg?dl=3D0
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> > The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn't=20
>> > seem to be within the range of their 25D model matching (if I=20
>> > go down the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hole).=20
>> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG_20181014_1047562
>> > 91.jpg?dl=3D0
>> >=20
>> > Do I have a non-standard distributor?  Any idea the right=20
>> > part # for my backing plate?   Or should I just bite the=20
>> > bullet and go electronic?
>> >=20
>> > Thanks,
>> >=20
>> > Art=20
>> > 1960 TR3A  TS64989LO=20
>> >=20
>>=20
>=20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Explain all that to Moss, they have mis-inf=
ormed me a couple times in the past and they refunded my return shipping.&nb=
sp;<div>Bill B<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=
=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sent from my Handspring Treo<=
/span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:amcewen2@cogeco.ca";>amcewen2@cogeco.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Well Moss has a lt lead that will work with t=
hat plate but when I go to switch the 1 month old points/condenser from the o=
ld plate to the new one I find the new one doesn't have a pivot post for the=
 points assembly&nbsp; grr.</div><div><br></div><div>So now I have to pay sh=
ipping for new points ('cause they didn't tell me that when they explained t=
he plate difference).</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.dropbo=
x.com/s/locovgzt497v9zg/IMG_0782.JPG?dl=3D0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/locov=
gzt497v9zg/IMG_0782.JPG?dl=3D0</a></div><div><br></div><br><span>On 10/15/18=
, <b class=3D"name">"Art McEwen" </b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:amcewen2@cogeco.=
ca">amcewen2@cogeco.ca</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote cite=3D"mid:7240883f=
196f1.5bc46d11@cgocable.ca" class=3D"iwcQuote" style=3D"border-left: 1px sol=
id #00F; padding-left: 13px; margin-left: 0;" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"mi=
mepart text html"><div>Thanks Randall,</div><div><br></div><div>Yes they sen=
t me&nbsp;LU422318 according to the packaging.&nbsp;&nbsp; It appears from <=
a href=3D"http://britishvacuumunit.com";>britishvacuumunit.com</a> that that p=
art along with LU54413549 (moss 153-640) might work, although it's not clear=
 from any of the photos if that terminal connector is meant to fit *over* th=
e fork of LU421078 or *instead* of&nbsp;the fork.&nbsp; </div><div><br></div=
><div>To further complicate things the internal contacts on&nbsp;my&nbsp;"up=
 style"&nbsp;distributor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sidewa=
ys style unit I picked up somewhere, but that means new leads.&nbsp; sigh...=
.</div><div><br></div><div>Art</div><div><span></span>&nbsp;</div><div><span=
>On 10/15/18, <b class=3D"name">Randall </b>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr3driver@=
ca.rr.com">tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></div><blockquote cite=3D=
"mid:0A6A4333BE9D494A946515E692B8272A@LAPTOPM3GPCDH8" class=3D"iwcQuote" sty=
le=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 13px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #00f 1px solid" typ=
e=3D"cite">
<div class=3D"mimepart text plain">40480D is an earlier model DM2P4 distribu=
tor.&nbsp; The information I have handy<br>says 40480F (which is functionall=
y the same and still DM2P4, the letter is<br>just a revision level) was used=
 as late as 1959 TR3, some of which were sold<br>in 1960.<br><br>That same d=
atabase says cars built in 1960 got 40698A/B, which is still a<br>DM2P4.<br>=
<br>The Moss catalog is certainly misleading, as they show a drawing of the<=
br>plate for a DM2P4, but the listing says it is for a 25D4.&nbsp; They have=
 no<br>listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not availabl=
e).&nbsp; I<br>believe the equivalent part number at TRF would be LU421078, w=
hich they have<br>listed as NLA.&nbsp; You might check with Revington, he se=
ems to source a lot of<br>parts the others can't find.<br><br>Faced with tha=
t same dilemma some years ago, I fabricated a mount for the<br>low tension l=
ead that worked quite well.&nbsp; Just a stack of pieces of bare<br>fibergla=
ss printed circuit board (from the scrap bin, no copper plating),<br>carved w=
ith a Dremel to fit snug but not too tight in the slot in the<br>distributor=
 cap.&nbsp; A small bolt through the center linked the two wires.<br>IIRC I u=
sed 3 pieces of PC board, one smaller to fit inside the notch and<br>two sli=
ghtly larger to fit on either side of the notch.&nbsp; A little extra work<b=
r>to install the cap, as I had to hold the side wire to position the new pie=
ce<br>in the slot, as I lowered the cap into place, but not too bad.<br><br>=
Later, I switched to a (used) 25D4 distributor.<br><br>-- Randall&nbsp; <br>=
<br>&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; From: Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailt=
o:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net]">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net]<=
/a> On <br>&gt; Behalf Of Art McEwen<br>&gt; Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 7=
:19 PM<br>&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox=
.team.net</a><br>&gt; Subject: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)<br>&gt; <br>=
&gt;&nbsp; Hi&nbsp; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; The backing plate on my TR3's=
 distributor has a lot of play <br>&gt; in it so timing is problematic.&nbsp=
; I ordered a new one from <br>&gt; Moss however that part (551-055) doesn't=
 have the same tall <br>&gt; attachment for the low tension lead leading out=
side the cap <br>&gt; (see old unit on the left): <br>&gt; <a href=3D"https:=
//www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_1038057" target=3D"1">https=
://www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_1038057</a><br>&gt; 63.jpg=
?dl=3D0<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; The distributor is stamped 40480D (see bel=
ow) which doesn't <br>&gt; seem to be within the range of their 25D model ma=
tching (if I <br>&gt; go down the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hol=
e). <br>&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG_201810=
14_1047562" target=3D"1">https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG_20181=
014_1047562</a><br>&gt; 91.jpg?dl=3D0<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Do I have a non-stand=
ard distributor?&nbsp; Any idea the right <br>&gt; part # for my backing pla=
te?&nbsp;&nbsp; Or should I just bite the <br>&gt; bullet and go electronic?=
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thanks,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Art <br>&gt; 1960 TR3A&nbsp; TS64=
989LO <br>&gt; <br><br></div></blockquote>
<div><br></div>
</div></blockquote>
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