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Re: [TR] Will a 'out-of-spot' tappet necessarily be higher, like this?

To: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Will a 'out-of-spot' tappet necessarily be higher, like this?
From: Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 13:01:20 -0400
Cc: "Triumph list Team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
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I wonder if a magnet at the end of one of those wands would reposition it?
Is there any danger that something will topple or get misaligned?

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com> wrote:

> You don't want to force anything, meaning don't try to tap it down into
> place.
>
> As Bill said, the easiest is to pull the head.  Keep in mind if you do
> that you need to use a new head gasket when re-installing the head and go
> through proper torque procedures, all of which is easy to do, just make
> sure you do it.
>
> As I was in your situation once, I'd take more time, and maybe a lot more
> time, and take a flashlight and peak down the holes that have the tappets
> in place so you know what it looks like, and then look down the one you're
> dealing with, and with a long screwdriver try to coax that tappet back into
> position.  If it's got plenty of oil on it, once it's aligned it should
> sink down in place with little to no pushing from you.
>
> Also, as someone else said, check to see if you have a local Triumph
> Club.  If you do, join it, and I'm sure there would be some members who
> would love to come over and help you out.  It's what we do!  :-)
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rye Livingston
> Activities Chairman
> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
> Celebrating our 60 Year Anniversary
> 1960 TR3A
> PH: 530-FIND-RYE
>
> On Sep 29, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I received my new pushrod from Moss last night and was impressed, it looks
> the same length as stock, but was slightly heavier by weight.  Others had
> forewarned that it might be chinese, and it could still be, although I
> don't know what would ever tell me if that were an issue.
>
> Right now, my emphasis is on getting the thing running. something it
> hasn't done in years. I remember saying that I had seen one pushrod in
> particular had non-concentric circles appearing down the pushrod tubes  and
> I surmised that this must be what everyone informed me must be an out of
> spot tappet that I had been warned about. Trouble is: I forgot to write
> down which one of the eight pushrod tubes that I had seen it in.
> I also might have worked that tappet over and in-line with the tube such
> that it now has the proper concentric circles.  On thing I do know for
> sure, is that one particular tappet causes it's pushrod to set a couple of
> inches higher ( as shown in the pic).  How do I get that tappet down? I
> slightly hit it's pushrod with my palm, but it would not drop down.  I do
> have an extra pushrod if others think I ought to tap it down using a
> pushrod,  Heck, I proably could use the old bent pushrod which I have now
> replaced, to tap it in place.  I just don't want to attempt this unless
> others give me a green light.
> Thanks, Paul Dorsey  aka RUSTY ACRES
> Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>
> 1:32 PM (1 hour ago)
>
> to me
>
>
>
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I wonder if a magnet at the end of one of those wands woul=
d reposition it?=C2=A0 Is there any danger that something will topple or ge=
t misaligned?=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On=
 Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac=
.com">ryel@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><=
div><div>You don&#39;t want to force anything, meaning=C2=A0don&#39;t try t=
o tap it down into place. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>As Bill said, the=
 easiest is to pull the head.=C2=A0 Keep in mind if you do that you need to=
 use a new head gasket when re-installing the head and go through proper to=
rque procedures, all of which is easy to do, just make sure you do it.</div=
><div><br></div><div>As I was in your situation once, I&#39;d take more tim=
e, and maybe a lot more time, and take a flashlight and peak down the holes=
 that have the tappets in place so you know what it looks like, and then lo=
ok down the one you&#39;re dealing with, and with a long screwdriver=C2=A0t=
ry to coax=C2=A0that tappet back into position.=C2=A0 If it&#39;s got plent=
y of oil on it, once it&#39;s aligned it should sink down in place with lit=
tle to no pushing from you.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, as someone else =
said, check to see if you have a local Triumph Club.=C2=A0 If you do, join =
it, and I&#39;m sure there would be some members who would love to come ove=
r and help you out.=C2=A0 It&#39;s what we do! =C2=A0:-)</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Good luck,</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"m_-5429200401966217254x=
-apple-signature">Rye Livingston</div><div class=3D"m_-5429200401966217254x=
-apple-signature"><span style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText,&#39;He=
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n:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing=
:0px;background-color:#ffffff;display:inline!important;float:none">Activiti=
es Chairman</span></div><div class=3D"m_-5429200401966217254x-apple-signatu=
re">Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club</div><div class=3D"m_-542920040196621=
7254x-apple-signature">Celebrating our 60 Year Anniversary</div><div class=
=3D"m_-5429200401966217254x-apple-signature">1960 TR3A<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE<=
/div><div><br>On Sep 29, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:dorpaul1@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"m_-54292004019662=
17254msg-quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">I received my new pushrod from Moss last n=
ight and was impressed, it looks the same length as stock, but was slightly=
 heavier by weight.=C2=A0 Others had forewarned that it might be chinese, a=
nd it could still be, although I don&#39;t know what would ever tell me if =
that were an issue.<div><br></div><div>Right now, my emphasis is on getting=
 the thing running. something it hasn&#39;t done in years. I remember sayin=
g that I had seen one pushrod in particular had non-concentric circles appe=
aring down the pushrod tubes=C2=A0=C2=A0and I surmised that this must be wh=
at everyone informed me must be an out of spot tappet that I had been warne=
d about. Trouble is: I forgot to write down which one of the eight pushrod =
tubes that I had seen it in.</div><div>I also might have worked that tappet=
 over and in-line with the tube such that it now has the proper concentric =
circles.=C2=A0 On thing I do know for sure, is that one particular tappet c=
auses it&#39;s pushrod to set a couple of inches higher ( as shown in the p=
ic).=C2=A0 How do I get that tappet down? I slightly hit it&#39;s pushrod w=
ith my palm, but it would not drop down.=C2=A0 I do have an extra pushrod i=
f others think I ought to tap it down using a pushrod,=C2=A0 Heck, I proabl=
y could use the old bent pushrod which I have now replaced, to tap it in pl=
ace.=C2=A0 I just don&#39;t want to attempt this unless others give me a gr=
een light.</div><div><div class=3D"m_-5429200401966217254gmail-gE m_-542920=
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