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Re: [TR] Spit vacuum retard fix--WORKS!

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Subject: Re: [TR] Spit vacuum retard fix--WORKS!
From: Tim Gaines <mtgaines@presby.edu>
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 17:56:55 -0400 (EDT)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Innis" <jdinnis@gmail.com>
To: "Tim Gaines" <mtgaines@presby.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] Spit vacuum retard fix


I did not use that method to fix this problem on my '76. Instead I disabled the 
vacuum retard. I screwed the two plates in the distributor together and blocked 
off the opening with a bit of aluminum. My car (with a DGV) performs fine this 
way (centrifugal advance only). 



On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Tim Gaines < mtgaines@presby.edu > wrote: 

No one on the list even uses the vacuum units anymore, at least as far as I can 
tell.  But I like the way the retarding unit smoothed the idle on my TR6, so I 
wanted to restore the one on my Spit to working order too.  The potential 
O-ring "fix" I mentioned last week (below) actually seems to have worked.  I 
can't blow air into the vacuum line anymore, and when I pull on the arm that 
normally extends into the distributor, I get air movement in the line.

I haven't been able to see it in action, though, because I've encountered a 
very weird problem in my attempt to start the engine after letting the car sit 
in the garage for 3 years.  I'm going to post a question about that in a few 
minutes.

Tim  

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I've discovered that the vacuum retard unit on my 1980 Spitfire 1500 (original 
Lucas electronic ignition) has a leak. When I blow through the attached vacuum 
line I can feel air escaping near the movable shaft that hooks into the 
distributor. I decided to look for a replacement and trusted Google to get me 
to the regular suppliers and others I might not know about. One of the finds 
was a Tips & Tricks section of the online Spitfire and GT6 Magazine, copied 
below. 

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"I was able to repair my vacuum retard with a 69 cent o-ring. Just remove the 
vacuum retard from the distributor. Slip the o-ring over the shaft and push 
into to housing. I used two o-rings but one seemed to work just as well. This 
won't work if you have a ruptured diaphragm but in most cases the vacuum leak 
occurs at the shaft. You can get this part at any hardware store. The size is 
1/4"OD x 1/8" ID X 16" thick." 
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I'm sure the last dimension given would be 1/16" thick. 

I'm just wondering if anyone has experience with this fix. I plan to get to the 
hardware store tomorrow and give it a try, but this sounds too good to be true. 
Was there an O-ring in the unit originally, or would this be a fix for some 
other broken seal? 

Tim Gaines 
Clinton, SC 
1974 TR6 
1980m Spitfire 

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