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Re: [TR] 63 TR 4 engine red

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From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" <spook01@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:10:57 -0600
Hi guys,
When I worked for a bmc dealer in Texas, I don't think any engines were EVER 
returned to bmc complete.
They would take any good pieces, put them on the warrantied failed assembly, 
and a factory rep would come through every so often and match ro's to warranty 
cards and parts.
After that, virtually everything was scrapped, or the claim rejected.
The only exceptions were items they wished to study.   And those were usually 
electrical.
I never heard of complete engines going to a factory reconditioning plant.
It would be feasible in the UK, but I can't think how that would be doable 
world-wide.
But, heck, the British manufacturers did all kinds of weird stuff. 
BTW, the TR 10 engines were gold, and to begin with, so were the Spit engines.
Black came to the Spits later.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

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From: "John Macartney" <flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "Randall" <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" 
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] 63 TR 4 engine red
Date: Sat, Dec 31, 2011 13:42


Engines that failed for whatever reason on the two 'run' dynos after leaving
engine assembly and found to be defective were stripped of their ancillaries
and scrapped. Simply, the cost of "teardown, investigate and rectify" exceeded
the raw material and direct labour cost of producing another new unit.
Engines
returned to the factory by the global dealer network for reconditioning were
rebuilt by a Standard-Triumph subsidiary called Beans Industries. They were
always painted a less than attractive blue and took the form of a short or
long motor - i.e. with or without a cylinder head and valve cover but devoid
of other equipment. The engine number was completely different from normal
production numbers and always had an 'R' as the leading prefix to indicate
"reconditioned" The famous 'Gold Star' engine was a slightly uprated Standard
(Triumph) Ten and used the surplus paint from the Ferguson Grey and Gold units
from 1956 onwards - and that's because the Purchasing Dept couldn't get out of
its supply contract with Pinchin & Johnson. The red engine referred to by
Darren might have come out of Engineering for some obscure reason but I doubt
the company ever used red in post-war production, at least in the UK. The
twelve other overseas assembly plants
 might have done something completely different?

Jonmac
http://standard-triumph-books.co.uk/ 


>________________________________
>
From: Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>
>To: triumphs@autox.team.net 
>Sent:
Saturday, 31 December 2011, 19:16
>Subject: Re: [TR] 63 TR 4 engine red
> 
>> 
He claimed that he had owned this Triumph from  new 
>> and the engine was 
>>
always factory red. 
>
>One theory I've heard is that re-worked engines (those
found defective in
>some manner and repaired by the factory before delivery)
were painted red.
>Dunno if that's true, but it makes sense to me.
>
>--
Randall  
>
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