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Subject: compression ratios, su's and other stuff
From: Ted Schumacher <tedtsimx@bright.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:14:17 -0500
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Hello list.  Sorry to bomb the lists.  Awhile back, there was some 
discussion on SU's vs Strombergs.  Here is a simple answer.  The 
Stromberg was used because it was a simple, already in-house carb that 
would be USA emission legal. Since it is basically a sealed unit with 
minimal adjustment range, it would not be capable of being "messed with" 
and thus remian EPA compliant.  The Stromberg has a fixed main jet 
(which is also non-replaceable)  with a very small selection of metering 
needles. In the case of the 175CD carb, you can choose from possibly 10 
different needles.  The HS6 SU, on the other hand, has 4 different main 
jets - .090", .100", .110" and .125" - which are replaceable.  There are 
also many needles to choose from for each jet size.  This allows you to 
tailor the carb to your cam, compression, altitude, etc without trying 
to compromise.  Since the Stromberg is sealed or basically 
non-adjustable, the choice is fairly simple.

Compression ratio determination.  There are all kinds of "cut this much 
off the head and you will have this compression ratio" figures.  The 
problem is, unless you know the head has never been cut, you can only 
hope the source of the info used an uncut head to determine the 
compression numbers.  Why not do it once and accurately?  The ONLY way 
to accurately determine compression ratio is to measure cylinder and 
chamber volumes.  Here is the formula.  Use it and you will never have 
to worry.  Compression Ratio (CR) = V1 + V2 divided by V2.  V1 is the 
volume of the cylinder with the piston at bottom dead center (bdc). V2 
is the volume of space above the piston at top dead center (tdc).  By 
using this formula, you don't have to worry about  piston shape.  Be 
sure to add 3 cc's for the head gasket volume.  example, V1 = 450 cc. 
 V2 = 50 cc.  450 + 50 = 500 divided by 50 (V2) = 10:1.  Simple and 
accurate.  All you need is a milliliter burrette and a level.  Level the 
head on the bench and fill the chamber with liquid - we use acetone 
because it's easy to clean up with no residue.  That gives V2.  Fill the 
cylinder with acetone and determine V1.

How much compression is "safe"?  With today's fuels, we limit CR to 9.5 
on cast iron engines.  It used to be the same octame - 93 - would allow 
you to safely run around 11:1 with stock cast pistons.  Today's fuel 
burns very hot - it's a method of making sure they limit the unburned 
gasses going ou the tail pipe.  Because of these high burn temperatures 
and the increased pressure of higher compression.  the cast pistons 
really get stressed.  This can result in piston damage.  Forged pistons 
can be used but this raises the cost .  Hope this information is of 
benefit.  Ted

-- 
Ted Schumacher
tedtsimx@bright.net
http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com
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Pandora, Ohio, USA
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