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Re: 80 Spit pushrod question

To: "Jeffery Howard" <nhoward442@charter.net>, "Jim Muller" <jimmuller@pop.mail.rcn.net>, "Spitfires" <Spitfires@autox.team.net>, <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: 80 Spit pushrod question
From: "Dave Willner" <dwillner@icontech.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 12:49:44 -0500
References: <3E047CD2.9500.424516D@localhost> <004301c2a931$5f735200$594cc7d0@Home> <001701c2a9c0$74282c40$6400a8c0@opelousas.charterala.com>
Jeff,

I have some conflicting replies regarding the amount of play in the rod, but
I think I may be OK with what's there. Bled the system a few times and I'm
still having a very low pedal response, about an inch from the floor? I
thought it may have been a sticky piston near the end of the slave, but its
smooth and slides well to the end right now. My other concern is the spring
doesn't seem to push the piston forward to the circlip with any "power", and
in order to remove the piston to replace the seal  I had reach down into the
cylinder to pull it out with a finger? It still doesn't "spring" back like
maybe it should, not sure if a new spring would help?

Dave Willner
59 TR3A Apple Green
80 Spitfire Carmine Red

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffery Howard" <nhoward442@charter.net>
To: "Dave Willner" <dwillner@icontech.com>; "Jim Muller"
<jimmuller@pop.mail.rcn.net>; "Spitfires" <Spitfires@autox.team.net>;
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: 80 Spit pushrod question


> Dave,
> I know what you are talking about and as it turns out the 1/2" movement is
> the distance the clutch lever arm must travel before it contacts the
clutch
> throw-out bearing.  This is normal.  The slop you have allowing it to move
> up and down may or may not be a problem.  If it seems to pivot around a
> single point this is also normal as this allows for slight misalignments
> between the slave and the clutch arm lever during normal operation.
>
> As far as the slight "play" you have with the clutch pedal, that is an
> indication that you should bleed the system on the car, when you do that
you
> will see the "play" go away.  (This is the same for brakes.)
>
> When bleeding the clutch on the car be sure to keep fluid in the master
> cylinder reservoir.  I would also recommend getting a helper to operate
the
> pedal while you operate the bleeder port.  If you have a vaccum bleeder
for
> your brakes you can use it on the clutch to help contain the fluid and
make
> it a one man job, you will still need to pump the pedal to bleed it with
the
> vaccum bleeder.
>
> Good Luck,
> Jeff Howard
> Rayne LA
> USA
> '69 GT6+
> '80 Spit
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Willner" <dwillner@icontech.com>
> To: "Jim Muller" <jimmuller@pop.mail.rcn.net>; "Spitfires"
> <Spitfires@autox.team.net>; <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 2:41 PM
> Subject: Re: 80 Spit pushrod question
>
>
> > I'm using "Haynes" terminology....sorry if I was unclear
> >
> > I'm not a clutch guru, but I believe it's called a clutch arm pushrod
that
> > attaches with a pin thru the clutch arm lever. This horozintal rod
(about
> 5"
> > long with a bushing on one end) goes into the slave.
> >
> > The bracket is really a "round 1 12/2" opening in the bellhousing the
> slave
> > gets inserted into I called it a bracket because of the pinch bolt, but
I
> > guess its not really a bracket.
> >
> > Should this rod, or whatever it's called, have any play in it at all, or
> > should be be tight with no play back and forth or side to side. Right
now
> it
> > seems to flop down and rest on the bottom of the opening and I can pull
it
> > back and forth about 1/2". And what I am facing in regard to replacing
if
> > indeed that is a problem
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dave Willner
> > 59 TR3A Apple Green
> > 80 Spitfire Carmine Red
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Muller" <jimmuller@pop.mail.rcn.net>
> > To: "Dave Willner" <dwillner@icontech.com>; "Spitfires"
> > <Spitfires@autox.team.net>; <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 2:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: 80 Spit pushrod question
> >
> >
> > > On 21 Dec 2002 at 13:03, Dave Willner wrote:
> > > > When I went to reinstall the slave I noticed the pushrod was laying
on
> > the
> > > > bottom of the bracket and there seems to be about 1/2" - 3/4" of
> > horizontal
> > > > play in it. My pedal goes 1/2 - 2/3 down to the floor until it
> engages,
> > but
> > > > very light before that.
> > > > Time for a new pushrod?, or?
> > >
> > > I'm quite familiar with the 80 Spitfire clutch arrangement but I have
> > > no idea what you're talking about!  "The pushrod was laying on the
> > > bottom of the bracket"?  Umm, did you check the framistan or the
> > > widget adjustment mechanism? :-)
> > >
> > > I can think of nothing that would be called a pushrod that would be
> > > worth replacing!  Are you talking about something on the pedal end or
> > > the slave end?
> > >
> > > (You'll probably get three copies of this reply, one to you and one
> > > to each of the lists.  Sorry about the redundancy, and also the
> > > repetition too.)
> > > --
> > > Jim Muller
> > > jimmuller@pop.rcn.com
> > > '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+

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