In article <3CDCDFC8.2901B1E1@zianet.com>, Michael D. Porter
<mporter@zianet.com> writes
>
>Michael Hargreave Mawson wrote:
>
>> I agree that there must be many Yahoo! Groups members who are unaware of
>> the autox-team.net lists, and vice versa (I didn't even know that there
>> was a triumph_cars Yahoo! Group). I agree that the various groups
>> should get together to arrange things in a better way. I don't agree
>> that this should be done by fusing all the disparate Triumph mailing
>> lists into one. There is a need for single-model mailing lists, as I
>> hope I have shown, but Jonmac is perfectly right in saying that there is
>> also a need for an overarching list that actively welcomes owners of
>> every sort of Triumph and Triumph-derivative. And, of course, compared
>> to autox.team.net, Yahoo! is a very third-rate mailing list service,
>> with huge and irritating drawbacks.
>
>John is mostly talking about the power of the internet to connect
>Triumph owners world-wide, rather than speak to the power of any
>individual list or model to dominate. I know this from years of
>conversations via email with him, about Triumphs, and the business of
>Triumph. John is responsible for coordinating the BMIHT with clubs
>world-wide, and his interests are global and model-wide, rather than are
>meant to limit conversation to one model or another.
Sure. I hope my posting didn't come across as suggesting that I
thought this was a bad idea - because I don't. I just think that
more-specialised groups also have their place.
>
>My recent responses to rants about shows and the VTR in America stem
>from long and detailed conversations with John about the need to spread
>help and sustenance to Triumph owners everywhere, and to interject some
>truth about them and their production, quite apart from what the owners
>wishing for pristine cars to make points in shows think.
>
>Trust us all to attempt to help, whatever the list, whatever the
>problem, wherever the car.
You, and John, and countless others, have been of immense help to me
ever since I bought my first Triumph, and subscribed to my first
automotive mailing lists. I find it hard to imagine how I would have
coped (or would continue to cope) without these lists, and their
ever-helpful, infinitely-knowledgeable, members. It seems likely that
this aspect of the "power of the Internet" may lead to many more
Triumphs being put back on the road than would otherwise have been
possible.
When I bought my Spit I had hardly ever done any work on a car. I had
done an oil change - once. I had changed a set of spark plugs - once.
Thanks to a bit of enthusiasm on my part, and all the help that I have
received from these lists, I have now done things that I would never
have dreamed I was capable of - changing a gearbox, for example, or
completely overhauling the electrics. There are still jobs that I
prefer to hand over to a competent mechanic (I'm scared stiff of working
on brakes, for example, particularly when I consider that my wife and
child travel in the car), but I now know that there is really nothing
that I cannot do, if I have the right tools and the necessary guidance
from the experts on these lists. If an automotive ignoramus such as I
can keep a Triumph on the road, *anyone* can - so long as he or she has
access to these lists.
ATB
--
Mike
Ellie - 1963 White Herald 1200 Convertible GA125624 CV
Carly - 1977 Inca Yellow Spitfire 1500 FM105671
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