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Re: mail fraud?

To: "Brad Kahler" <brad.kahler@141.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: mail fraud?
From: Mark Milotay <mark.milotay@onthemark.bc.ca>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:29:26 -0800
Brad,

If this fellow hasreally fallen on hard times the least he could do is ship
you the fender collect. That aside, what does his falling on hard times
have to do with being unable to ship the fender to you? I think that he is
probably a rotter and a fiend and should be dealt with appropriately. I've
made some rather large transactions over the 'Net, and touch wood I haven't
been shafted. I try and build up a rapport with the person before doing
business, so that I can judge how to do business with them. After your last
chat with him, if he hasn't given you a satisfactory response & a shipping
ID, I would definitely class it as mail fraud and charge the bastard. I am
not a lawyer (although I did play one in a play) and so I can't advise you
on the intricacies of such a pursuit.

Good Luck,

Mark

At 07:44 PM 2/1/99 -0600, Brad Kahler wrote:
>
>Listers,
>
>I would like to find out what constitutes mail fraud.  I answered an add on 
>the VTR site for a rear fender.  After several emails and then phone 
>conversations with the gentleman we agreed on a price and shipping 
>charges.  The owner wanted a money order and I complied.  The price was 
>$90 so we aren't talking a lot of money here.  I just don't like the idea of 
>being screwed.  I sent the money back in August and quite a while went by 
>and no fender.  I finally called again around christmas time and talked to 
>him I think for the second time and I got the song and dance about him 
>having followed on hard times ect ect.  Same old song and dance.  
>Supposedly he is still going to ship the fender (yea right). 
>
>So does this constitute mail fraud or is it just stupidity on my part?  What 
>course of action should I take in this.  I have his address and phone 
>number.
>
>Something I had thought of was trying to find a fellow lister to stop by
this 
>persons place and see if they could if nothing else pick up the fender from 
>him.  If this seems like a good idea are there any listers in the LA and the 
>area code prefix is 714 that would want to tackle this problem?
>
>I'm open to any suggestions?
>
>TIA
>Brad  (Lincoln Nebraska 402-464-1502)
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> 
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