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Re: Local Telephone Calls in France

To: livo@saglac.qc.ca
Subject: Re: Local Telephone Calls in France
From: Odd Hedberg <odd@triumphclub.se>
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:15:50 +0100
Cc: 1- Triumphs List <triumphs@Autox.Team.Net>
References: <199801310122.UAA07152@chic.saglac.qc.ca>
John, and Friends in Cyberspace...
I don't have an answer about France, but I can give a comment 
on the impact of flat rate/Internet penetration... Or rather, 
the lack of a flat rate. In Sweden, as in most countries on 
earth I guess, we pay both a monthly fixed fee for the access 
to the phone system [~USD 13.79/GBP 8.42 per month], and on 
top of that a fee per second of usage. [~USD 0.028/GBP 0.017 
per minute local, ~USD 0.062/GBP 0.038 long distance. On top 
of it they put a fee of ~USD 0.049/GBP 0.030 every time a call 
is answered. And half those prices during the night hours...] 

Despite this the ISP's in Sweden claim an Internet penetration 
[people with access to the net, e-mail etc] in Sweden of no 
less than 30+%! And a large proportion of that is from private 
net accesses in the homes [About half the population have access 
to a PC at home...]. So obviously a flat rate is not essential 
to get a high net penetration in an educated and technically 
curious population. But ofcource it would increase the time 
spent browsing around on the net! Or significantly lessen the 
phone bills - something the phone companies would hate to see, 
I guess...  Another means of high revenue for those companies 
are the cell phone networks digging gold out of the pockets of 
the population, with fees in the USD 0.74/GBP 0.45 range per 
minute... For the moment about 40% of all Swedes have a personal 
cellular phone [and still the Finns beat us to that with slightly 
less than 50%...] and thus pay both a fixed line and a cellular 
line. Some of us have several fixed lines to that, with separate 
lines for faxmachines, phones etc... No wonder telecom is a big 
business in the Scandinavian countries... 
I just heard the other day that Ericsson sold, on export, cell- 
phones and adjacent technology for a higher sum than the entire 
exports from the Swedish lumber and paper/pulp industry during 
1997! And to that the Finnish Nokia sells for about the same... 

/Odd

livo@saglac.qc.ca skrev:
> Does any one know if local calls in France are now (since January 
> 1, 1998) untimed and included in the monthly charge, as in Canada 
> and most of the US?
> Unlike the UK, where one has to pay for every second on the phone.
> Consequetnly, very few Brits are on the NET.
> John V

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