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Re: [Spridgets] Electrical help-Alternator conversion

To: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Electrical help-Alternator conversion
From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 05:30:18 -0400
Cc: Spridgets list <spridgets@autox.team.net>, Mark Haynes <220caribou@gmail.com>
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Hi Mike and all Spridigeteers,
It was nice to see this pdf with Frank's post regarding converting our
Spridgets to alternators as I may do this same in the future buy my 1275 in
my 62 deep pink Sprite is still running stock for now. My question is, who
is running the PDLJMPR (known as "Puddle Jumper'') web magazine?
https://pdljmpr.tripod.com/contents.htm. I was surprised to see it still up
and running. My second question is, who is running "Sprite Spot" as the
photos are long gone for many years but some elements still remain
although unsecured, http://www.spritespot.com.
Happy and safe motoring,
Linda
62 California Sprite "Pinky"

On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 3:06=E2=80=AFAM Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Frank Clarici from the Spridget list had this figured out years ago. See
> attached PDF from the old PDLJMPR web magazine.
>
>
>
> Mike MacLean
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 1:20=E2=80=AFPM Mark Haynes via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> No Greg,
>> I don't have a part number, but Jim and Kevin's input has helped.
>> It appears that the I terminal needs switched 12V, the L terminal is the
>> charge lamp signal, and the S terminal gets battery 12V along with the B=
+.
>> There was a thread on the MGB forum about this same ND alternator
>> highlighting that if the S terminal isn't seeing battery voltage, you do=
n't
>> get full 14+V output, so I've wired it to the B+ terminal as well.
>> This was supposed to be a 1 wire alternator, but it's what I've got, so
>> I'm working it out.
>> Thanks to everyone who has offered input.
>> I'll report back about this after I finish the rest of my mod adaptation=
s
>> and get it running.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024, 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Greg Gowins <emailme@greggowins.com=
> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Mark!
>>>
>>> I'm looking back through my notes from when we wired the alternator int=
o
>>> my car.  I'm assuming that the fundamentals between the one you have an=
d
>>> the one I have are fairly similar.    However, the 3rd wire is the main
>>> difference.   I'd try it both ways, with it connected to switched power=
 and
>>> without.  This particular alternator might have some kind of circuit th=
at
>>> cuts everything off if it doesn't sense ignition power.    Do you happe=
n to
>>> have the part number of this alternator handy?
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 11:42=E2=80=AFAM Mark Haynes via Spridgets <
>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm sliding down this slippery slope of modification and need some hel=
p.
>>>> I'm trying to put a ND 3 wire alternator into my BE. It's already
>>>> converted to Negative ground and I'm intending on rewiring the regulat=
or
>>>> per Barney Gaylord to just use it as a terminal block.
>>>> Here's the issue, the alternator has a Battery Positive Sense (S)
>>>> terminal, a Keyed Battery Ignition (I) terminal and an Indicator Light=
 (L)
>>>> terminal.
>>>> I'm assuming that the S terminal should get the 'fat' brown wire that
>>>> used to go to the D terminal on the regulator (new placement the A ter=
minal
>>>> after rewiring), and that the L terminal goes to the small yellow wire=
 to
>>>> feed power to shut off the charge light.
>>>> Do I need to wire the I terminal (Keyed battery ignition) so that it
>>>> sees power when the ignition switch is on (the white wire at A1 of the
>>>> regulator), or is this redundant and unnecessary?
>>>> TIA, the new engine/5 speed/speedhut tach & speedo are all coming
>>>> together to drive this spring!
>>>> Mark Haynes
>>>> It only goes one way- Pay It Forward
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Mike and all Spridigeteers,<div>It was nice to see this=
 pdf with Frank&#39;s post regarding converting our Spridgets to alternator=
s as I may do this same in the future buy my 1275 in my 62 deep pink Sprite=
 is still running stock for now. My question is, who is running the PDLJMPR=
=C2=A0(known as &quot;Puddle Jumper&#39;&#39;) web magazine? =C2=A0<a href=
=3D"https://pdljmpr.tripod.com/contents.htm";>https://pdljmpr.tripod.com/con=
tents.htm</a>. I was surprised=C2=A0to see it still up and running. My seco=
nd question is, who is running &quot;Sprite Spot&quot; as the photos are lo=
ng gone for many years but some elements still remain although=C2=A0unsecur=
ed,=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.spritespot.com";>http://www.spritespot.com</a=
>.</div><div>Happy and safe motoring,</div><div>Linda</div><div>62 Californ=
ia Sprite &quot;Pinky&quot;</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 3:06=E2=80=AFAM Mic=
hael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>=
spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left=
-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div>Frank Clarici from the Spridget list had this figured out yea=
rs ago. See attached PDF from the old PDLJMPR web magazine.</div><div><br><=
/div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Mike MacLean<br></div><div><br></di=
v><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 1:20=E2=80=AFPM Mark Haynes via Spr=
idgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">sp=
ridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-s=
tyle:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"auto">No Greg,=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">I don&#39;t have a part number, but =
Jim and Kevin&#39;s input has helped.</div><div dir=3D"auto">It appears tha=
t the I terminal needs switched 12V, the L terminal is the charge lamp sign=
al, and the S terminal gets battery 12V along with the B+.</div><div dir=3D=
"auto">There was a thread on the MGB forum about this same ND alternator hi=
ghlighting that if the S terminal isn&#39;t seeing battery voltage, you don=
&#39;t get full 14+V output, so I&#39;ve wired it to the B+ terminal as wel=
l.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">This was supposed to be a 1 wire alternator=
, but it&#39;s what I&#39;ve got, so I&#39;m working it out.=C2=A0</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">Thanks to everyone who has offered input.=C2=A0</div><div di=
r=3D"auto">I&#39;ll report back about this after I finish the rest of my mo=
d adaptations and get it running.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 6, 2024, 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Greg Gowins =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:emailme@greggowins.com"; target=3D"_blank">emailme@gre=
ggowins.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;=
border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey M=
ark!<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m looking back through my notes from when we =
wired the alternator into my car.=C2=A0 I&#39;m assuming that the fundament=
als between the one you have and the one I have are fairly similar.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 However, the 3rd wire is the main difference.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I&#39;d tr=
y it both ways, with it connected to switched power and without.=C2=A0 This=
 particular alternator might have some kind of circuit that cuts everything=
 off if it doesn&#39;t sense ignition=C2=A0power.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Do you happe=
n to have the part number of this alternator handy?</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Greg</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 11:42=E2=80=AFAM Mark Haynes via Spridge=
ts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1p=
x;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I&#39;m sliding down this slippery slope of modif=
ication and need some help.</div><div>I&#39;m trying to put a ND 3 wire alt=
ernator into my BE. It&#39;s already converted to Negative ground and I&#39=
;m intending on rewiring the regulator per Barney Gaylord to just use it as=
 a terminal block.</div><div>Here&#39;s the issue, the alternator has a Bat=
tery Positive Sense (S) terminal, a Keyed Battery Ignition (I) terminal and=
 an Indicator Light (L) terminal. <br></div><div>I&#39;m assuming that the =
S terminal should get the &#39;fat&#39; brown wire that used to go to the D=
 terminal on the regulator (new placement the A terminal after rewiring), a=
nd that the L terminal goes to the small yellow wire to feed power to shut =
off the charge light. <br></div><div>Do I need to wire the I terminal (Keye=
d battery ignition) so that it sees power when the ignition switch is on (t=
he white wire at A1 of the regulator), or is this redundant and unnecessary=
?</div><div>TIA, the new engine/5 speed/speedhut tach &amp; speedo are all =
coming together to drive this spring!<br></div><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Mark Haynes<br></div>It only=
 goes one way- Pay It Forward<br></div></div></div></div></div>
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