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To: Karl Vacek <kvacek@ameritech.net> 2903e8d5c8f:6.0.138,18.0.957,17.11.170.22.0000000 definitions=2023-05-18_15:2020-02-14_02,2023-05-18_15,2023-02-09_01 signatures=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 clxscore=1011 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=962 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2212070000 definitions=main-2306230191
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 78 Midget fuel system
From: Rich Hill via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 17:14:37 -0400
Cc: Spridgets <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
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There=E2=80=99s a section of plastic tubing on the side of the transmission.=
 Make sure that=E2=80=99s OK. Although if you=E2=80=99ve replaced all the ho=
ses, you=E2=80=99ve probably done that one.=20

Rich
=E2=80=9879 Midget
=E2=80=9858 Sprite

> On Jun 22, 2023, at 7:52 PM, Karl Vacek <kvacek@ameritech.net> wrote:
> =EF=BB=BF
> We've had this car since 2006 -almost second owners.  About 17,000 miles, v=
ery original.  Jill stopped driving it a couple years ago so I'm renewing ev=
erything in preparation for selling it.
>=20
> It's a 1500 (Spitfire) engine and all the emissions stuff.  Which is all t=
here and everything I've checked is working.
>=20
> We bought it from a kid who owned it for about as month, just putting in t=
he cheapest fuel pump he could find and jamming the wrong size battery betwe=
en the heater and the firewall.  It's always seemed to lose fuel pump prime a=
nd needed lots of cranking for the first start after sitting a day or two.  I=
 only just now finally replaced each and every hose in the system (not the e=
vap circuits, but for now I've unhooked the evap tank line.
>=20
> Running with fuel directly to the carb I only got a little spit from the p=
ump, and off the car it seemed dead.  Soooo - I bought a good new fuel pump,=
 the one with the infinitely clockable top, which also actually has a filter=
 unlike the POS the kid put on the car.  Pump seems to suck but it's still n=
ot pulling fuel though the line from the tank even after getting some fuel i=
n the lines and running the engine a few minutes on direct fuel to the carb.=

>=20
> I want to check the rest of the fuel supply system but I cannot remove the=
 feed line from the tank - it's a non-existent size for flare wrenches, Kroi=
l hasn't worked it's usual magic, and my Knipex pliers wrench can't turn the=
 fitting either.  Not to the cave man stage yet - this is a very original, r=
ust free car, so I'm not using a pipe wrench or etc.=20
>=20
> I want to directly blow through the fuel line to make sure it's clear - bl=
owing from the front with the gas cap off is inconclusive.  I'm working alon=
e and I'm just not sure it's passing as much air as it should.
>=20
> Aside from cutting the line off (really original car that we want to sell a=
s soon as I'm done renewing everything) I'm stuck.  I can't really drop the t=
ank (to fill it with water and have at the fitting with serious heat) withou=
t destroying the original fuel line.=20
>=20
> What is the pickup like in the tank, presumably leading down from the bulk=
head fitting to the bottom.  No in-tank filter that I see in the parts books=
.
>=20
> My last hope is to remove the huge filler hose in the trunk and put a came=
ra in there tomorrow.
>=20
> Any other suggestions ?=20
>=20
> Thanks!
> Karl

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D"conten=
t-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">There=E2=80=99s a section of plastic tubing on the side of the tr=
ansmission. Make sure that=E2=80=99s OK. Although if you=E2=80=99ve replaced=
 all the hoses, you=E2=80=99ve probably done that one.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rich</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9879 Midg=
et</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9858 Sprite</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><block=
quote type=3D"cite">On Jun 22, 2023, at 7:52 PM, Karl Vacek &lt;kvacek@ameri=
tech.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF


<div dir=3D"auto">
We've had this car since 2006 -almost second owners.&nbsp; About 17,000 mile=
s, very original.&nbsp; Jill stopped driving it a couple years ago so I'm re=
newing everything in preparation for selling it.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">It's a 1500 (Spitfire) engine and all the emissions stuff.=
&nbsp; Which is all there and everything I've checked is working.</div><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">We bought it from a kid who owned it=
 for about as month, just putting in the cheapest fuel pump he could find an=
d jamming the wrong size battery between the heater and the firewall.&nbsp; I=
t's always seemed to lose fuel pump prime and needed lots of cranking for th=
e first start after sitting a day or two.&nbsp; I only just now finally repl=
aced each and every hose in the system (not the evap circuits, but for now I=
've unhooked the evap tank line.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">Running with fuel directly to the carb I only got a little spit from t=
he pump, and off the car it seemed dead.&nbsp; Soooo - I b<span style=3D"fon=
t-size: 12pt;">ought a good new fuel pump, the one with the infinitely clock=
able top, which also actually has a filter unlike the POS the kid put on the=
 car.&nbsp; Pump seems to suck but it's still not pulling fuel though the li=
ne from the tank even after getting some fuel in the lines and running the e=
ngine a few minutes on direct fuel to the carb.</span></div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 12pt;">I want to check the rest of the fuel supply system=
 but I cannot remove the feed line from the tank - it's a non-existent size f=
or flare wrenches, Kroil hasn't worked it's usual magic, and my Knipex plier=
s wrench can't turn the fitting either.&nbsp; Not to the cave man stage yet -=
 this is a very original, rust free car, so I'm not using a pipe wrench or e=
tc.&nbsp;</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br=
></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">I want to d=
irectly blow through the fuel line to make sure it's clear - blowing from th=
e front with the gas cap off is inconclusive.&nbsp; I'm working alone and I'=
m just not sure it's passing as much air as it should.</span></div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Aside from cutting the line off (really orig=
inal car that we want to sell as soon as I'm done renewing everything) I'm s=
tuck.&nbsp; I can't really drop the tank (to fill it with water and have at t=
he fitting with serious heat) without destroying the original fuel line.&nbs=
p;</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br></span=
></div><div dir=3D"auto">What is the pickup like in the tank, presumably lea=
ding down from the bulkhead fitting to the bottom.&nbsp; No in-tank filter t=
hat I see in the parts books.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">My last hope is to remove the huge filler hose in the trunk and put a c=
amera in there tomorrow.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
Any other suggestions ?&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">Thanks!</div><div dir=3D"auto">Karl</div>
</div>

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