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To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> DgdaNEaDemqRWLTs5zhMdhMZW30rCRGVanoOpX+0tzIE7JPgLOPQMaShVJiBdwskdrXpE6JZSNF7BI1aqt0ozN9enBjXwQ5ieLJZYwEk3VI2HOrJT5YIfujr
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Carburetor Needle
From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 16:42:49 -0400
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Hi Bob,

The HS2's with spring loaded needles were used on most of the 12V 1275's.  M=
ount the needles just like the fixed needles with the shoulder flush with th=
e bottom of the piston and tune away, just like with the fixed needles.  The=
 spring loaded needles make it less critical to get the jet centered exactly=
 right. =20

The plastic floats are tougher to get adjusted correctly, but it can be done=
 by shimming the float needle seat. =20

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

> On Apr 30, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
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> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
> To: Bob Kitterer <bkitterer@me.com>; spridgets@autox.team <spridgets@autox=
.team>
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020, 12:37:13 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carburetor Needle
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> Bob,
>      You may already know this, but looking in Haynes SU Carburettors manu=
al there is no mention of this type of needle assembly in the HS section.  T=
here is explanation of it in the HIF section.  That section states unless yo=
u are going to adjust for the minimum smog emissions you can adjust it in th=
e normal way for normal running.  Otherwise you need an exhaust gas analyzer=
, fuel and ambient temp measuring instrument, pressure and air flow measurem=
ents.
> Mike MacLean  =20
>=20
> On Thursday, April 30, 2020, 12:17:50 PM PDT, Bob Kitterer via Spridgets <=
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Silly me.  I came by a pair of new HS2 carbs about 8 years ago and decided=
 to put them on the car.  Now there was nothing wrong with the ones on the c=
ar but theses were new.  First silly me.  Since they were new I assumed that=
 they were set up correctly, float bowl floats, main needles and such.  So o=
n they went and the car ran alright but I did not get the time to do much mo=
re than go to the gas station and back and this was at sea level.  Shortly a=
fter that I moved and now am at 5,500 ft and the car will not start except w=
ith the use of starter helper.  Needless to say the car has not been drive m=
ore than one or two trips to the gas station in the past six years.  So I fi=
nally decided that I needed to check the carb settings, the Ignition, valves=
, timing have all been checked and set.  So off came a float bowl cap and it=
 has a plastic float that is no where near the =E2=80=9Ccorrect=E2=80=9D set=
ting.  I ordered the old fashion floats with the metal arms. Got those insta=
lled and moved on the main needle and jet alinement.  Surprise, I have never=
 seen a needle like this one.  It is spring loaded, has a tapered screw that=
 locks in to the piston.  This looks like it is used on late =E2=80=9867s an=
d newer.  I=E2=80=99m early =E2=80=9867 and have no information on later uni=
ts.  Any one have a source that will tell me how you adjust carbs with these=
s needles?
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> Bob  Kitterer
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> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2013 Miata
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> Pay it Forward
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Hi Bob,<div><br></div><div>The HS2's with s=
pring loaded needles were used on most of the 12V 1275's. &nbsp;Mount the ne=
edles just like the fixed needles with the shoulder flush with the bottom of=
 the piston and tune away, just like with the fixed needles. &nbsp;The sprin=
g loaded needles make it less critical to get the jet centered exactly right=
. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The plastic floats are tougher to get adju=
sted correctly, but it can be done by shimming the float needle seat. &nbsp;=
</div><div><br></div><div>Rick<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keyboard=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Apr 30, 2020, at 3:4=
0 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;spridgets@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<=
br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=
<div class=3D"ydp2321d0bbyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:times new ro=
man, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydpc8c60ff8yahoo_quoted_8586161164" class=3D"ydpc8c=
60ff8yahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
                <div>----- Forwarded Message -----</div>
                <div><b>From:</b> Michael MacLean &lt;rrengineer.mike@att.ne=
t&gt;</div><div><b>To:</b> Bob Kitterer &lt;bkitterer@me.com&gt;; spridgets@=
autox.team &lt;spridgets@autox.team&gt;</div><div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, Apr=
il 30, 2020, 12:37:13 PM PDT</div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spridgets] Carbu=
retor Needle</div><div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpc8c60ff8yiv2251809836"><div><div class=3D=
"ydpc8c60ff8yiv2251809836ydp2e5596bdyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:t=
imes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Bob,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 You may already know this, but looking in Haynes SU Carburettors manual the=
re is no mention of this type of needle assembly in the HS section.&nbsp; Th=
ere is explanation of it in the HIF section.&nbsp; That section states unles=
s you are going to adjust for the minimum smog emissions you can adjust it i=
n the normal way for normal running.&nbsp; Otherwise you need an exhaust gas=
 analyzer, fuel and ambient temp measuring instrument, pressure and air flow=
 measurements.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean &nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
       =20
        </div><div class=3D"ydpc8c60ff8yiv2251809836yahoo_quoted" id=3D"ydpc=
8c60ff8yiv2251809836yahoo_quoted_9041291574">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div class=3D"ydpc8c60ff8yiv2251809836yqt0691589346" id=3D"y=
dpc8c60ff8yiv2251809836yqt02669"><div>
                    On Thursday, April 30, 2020, 12:17:50 PM PDT, Bob Kitter=
er via Spridgets &lt;spridgets@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpc8c60ff8yiv2251809836"><div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Silly me. &nbsp;I came by a pair of new HS2 carbs about=
 8 years ago and decided to put them on the car. &nbsp;Now there was nothing=
 wrong with the ones on the car but theses were new. &nbsp;First silly me. &=
nbsp;Since they were new I assumed that they were set up correctly, float bo=
wl floats, main needles and such. &nbsp;So on they went and the car ran alri=
ght but I did not get the time to do much more than go to the gas station an=
d back and this was at sea level. &nbsp;Shortly after that I moved and now a=
m at 5,500 ft and the car will not start except with the use of starter help=
er. &nbsp;Needless to say the car has not been drive more than one or two tr=
ips to the gas station in the past six years. &nbsp;So I finally decided tha=
t I needed to check the carb settings, the Ignition, valves, timing have all=
 been checked and set. &nbsp;So off came a float bowl cap and it has a plast=
ic float that is no where near the =E2=80=9Ccorrect=E2=80=9D setting. &nbsp;=
I ordered the old fashion floats with the metal arms. Got those installed an=
d moved on the main needle and jet alinement. &nbsp;Surprise, I have never s=
een a needle like this one. &nbsp;It is spring loaded, has a tapered screw t=
hat locks in to the piston. &nbsp;This looks like it is used on late =E2=80=98=
67s and newer. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99m early =E2=80=9867 and have no information o=
n later units. &nbsp;Any one have a source that will tell me how you adjust c=
arbs with theses needles?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div>&lt;IMG_=
2140.jpg&gt;</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><span>Bob &nbsp;Kitterer</span><div><span style=3D"font-size: 13pt;"><br c=
lear=3D"none"></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 13pt;">1960 Austin=
 Healey Sprite&nbsp;(Mk IV in disguise)</span></div><div><span style=3D"font=
-size: 13pt;">1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk&nbsp;III (Trevor) - still in boxe=
s</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 13pt;">2013 Miata</span></div><=
div><span style=3D"font-size: 13pt;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div><s=
pan style=3D"font-size: 13pt;">Pay it Forward</span></div><div><span style=3D=
"font-size: 13pt;">Thanks Frank</span><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">=
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