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In my 50+ years of bleeding brakes I have had fluid splash out of the master=
with the cap off. More than once. Probably due to the rather violent mult=
iple pumping I sometimes do in an attempt to dislodge an ornery air bubble. =
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Glycol brake fluid eats paint, so putting the cap back on saves on paint rep=
airs. :-)
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> On Jun 30, 2019, at 7:43 PM, GUY DAY <grday@btinternet.com> wrote:
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> In 50 odd years of bleeding brakes without using any thing other than a ru=
bber or plastic tube going down to a jam jar (preserves jar) to collect the f=
luid pumped out, the m/cyl cap has been OFF the master cylinder and no fluid=
has ever splashed out, no matter how hard I've pumped. When you press the b=
rake pedal the level in the m/cyl will will drop very quickly and you need t=
o keep an eye on the fluid level - with the cap on you can't see the fluid l=
evel.
> You can bleed drum brakes without the drum on but you need something to ho=
ld the pistons in the slave cyls such as a clamp or you can wire the pistons=
in. Occasionally useful to do when a slight leak in the slaves is suspected=
or you are building with the car on stands.
> I had a pit mechanic, when time was of the essence, bleed a rear brake by s=
lipping the slave piston out past the seal lip, and whilst the pedal was bei=
ng pressed and the cyl filled with fluid slip the seal and piston back in pl=
ace - it worked and it cost a lot in fluid !
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> Linda - please remember that brakes are a bit of a life saver both on your=
side and on other peoples - they need doing properly. You errors and questi=
ons show you do not have much knowledge in that area but they do need doing c=
orrectly. Having a full understanding of your braking system is really essen=
tial before you start with brakes. You should not learning on the job. For y=
our sake, let someone else do them.
> Regards
> Guy R Day
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> On Sunday, 30 June 2019, 15:18:33 BST, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@=
autox.team.net> wrote:
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> I always leave the cap on the master (it's vented). If you leave the cap o=
ff you sometimes will get brake fluid splashing out causing a big mess when y=
ou pump hard. If the cap is plugged your brakes won't work anyways as the v=
ent is essential for proper operation of the master.
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> Sent from my keyboard
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>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 9:48 AM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <spridgets@=
autox.team.net> wrote:
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>> Hold it guys! Unless Linda's car was completely changed to a dual brake m=
aster cylinder and all new lines installed to acomodate the pressure switch s=
he has none of this. Her car has the stock brake & clutch master cylinder.=
>> As far as bleeding a spridget brake system it's advisable to remove the m=
aster cylinder cap or at the very least crack it open. Why? The cap is ven=
ted to atmosphere but if there is dirt restricting the vent function , with t=
he cap in place when using a vacume type bleeder , literally you'd get next t=
o nothing.
>> As well , if the bleeder screw is packed with dirt , there is nowhere for=
fluid to exit when attempting to bleed.
>> Chuck
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">In my 50+ years of bleeding brakes I have h=
ad fluid splash out of the master with the cap off. More than once. &n=
bsp;Probably due to the rather violent multiple pumping I sometimes do in an=
attempt to dislodge an ornery air bubble. <div><br></div><div>Glycol b=
rake fluid eats paint, so putting the cap back on saves on paint repairs. &n=
bsp;:-)<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keybo=
ard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jun 30, 2019, at 7:43 PM, GUY DAY <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:grday@btinternet.com";>grday@btinternet.com</a>> wrote:<br><b=
r></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div> In 5=
0 odd years of bleeding brakes without using any thing other than a rubber o=
r plastic tube going down to a jam jar (preserves jar) to collect the fluid p=
umped out, the m/cyl cap has been OFF the master cylinder and no fluid has e=
ver splashed out, no matter how hard I've pumped. When you press the brake p=
edal the level in the m/cyl will will drop very quickly and you need to keep=
an eye on the fluid level - with the cap on you can't see the fluid level.<=
br>You can bleed drum brakes without the drum on but you need something to h=
old the pistons in the slave cyls such as a clamp or you can wire the piston=
s in. Occasionally useful to do when a slight leak in the slaves is suspecte=
d or you are building with the car on stands.<br>I had a pit mechanic, when t=
ime was of the essence, bleed a rear brake by slipping the slave piston out p=
ast the seal lip, and whilst the pedal was being pressed and the cyl filled w=
ith fluid slip the seal and piston back in place - it worked and it cost a l=
ot in fluid !<br><br>Linda - please remember that brakes are a bit of a life=
saver both on your side and on other peoples - they need doing properly. Yo=
u errors and questions show you do not have much knowledge in that area but t=
hey do need doing correctly. Having a full understanding of your braking sys=
tem is really essential before you start with brakes. You should not learni=
ng on the job. For your sake, let someone else do them.<br>Regards<br>Guy R D=
ay<br><br> </div> <div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D=
"margin:10px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ccc;padding-left:1ex;"> =
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99yqt39693"><div> On Sunday, 30 June 2019, 15:18:33 BST, R=
ick Fisk via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>sprid=
gets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: </div> <div=
><br clear=3D"none"></div> <div><br clear=3D"none"></div> =
<div><div id=3D"yiv5301443699"><div>I always leave the cap on th=
e master (it's vented). If you leave the cap off you sometimes will ge=
t brake fluid splashing out causing a big mess when you pump hard. If t=
he cap is plugged your brakes won't work anyways as the vent is essential fo=
r proper operation of the master.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5301443699AppleMailSignature">Sent from my keyboard</div=
><div class=3D"yiv5301443699yqt5870060730" id=3D"yiv5301443699yqt22895"><div=
dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">On Jun 30, 2019, at 9:48 AM, crusaderchuck55=
--- via Spridgets <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:s=
pridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.te=
am.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt;"><div>Hold it guys! Unless Linda's car was completely ch=
anged to a dual brake master cylinder and all new lines installed to acomoda=
te the pressure switch she has none of this. Her car has the sto=
ck brake & clutch master cylinder.</div><div>As far as bleeding a spridg=
et brake system it's advisable to remove the master cylinder cap or at the v=
ery least crack it open. Why? The cap is vented to atmosphere bu=
t if there is dirt restricting the vent function , with the cap in place whe=
n using a vacume type bleeder , literally you'd get next to nothing.</div><d=
iv>As well , if the bleeder screw is packed with dirt , there is nowhere for=
fluid to exit when attempting to bleed.</div><div>Chuck</div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div><div style=3D"font-size:9pt;"><i>Sent from my LG Mobile=
</i></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
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