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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Throttle cable clean & lube suggestions?
From: Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 04:39:03 -0700
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Lin,
Not sure what you mean by,"if the light goes on...."
Electrical problems can be very frustrating, voltages that seem good may
drop under load as resistance from bad connections causes Ohm's Law to come
into play in a big way.
Sometimes the solution doesn't seem obvious at all: I once replaced a
starter twice,before I took my mechanic's advice and replaced the battery
cables!  Took me quite a while to live that down.
Earlier you said the battery was at 12 Volts, this seems a bit low as a
fully charged battery should be closer to 14 Volts.
I would still expect the fuel pump to work, but if you have a fresh battery
that you can swap in temporarily it might prove informative.
Hal

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hal,
> I've got a multimeter, OK will do. I did get the continuity tester light
> to light and now thinking how stupid I should have tried to pull the
> starter as that's how I would know if the starter works. I will clean all
> connectors and test with multimeter and use heavy gauge wire now can I go
> directly to the battery then pull the starter to test the starter? I will
> get a new battery if needed.
> Lin
>
> PS if the light goes on via pump power doesn't it mean the pump is in
> working condition?
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Lin, Do you have a multi meter?  Since you are getting multiple symptoms
>> I would begin by checking ALL ground connections. Do you have electrical
>> power to the pump?  (measure between the hot lead and ground with the
>> ignition on, but not trying to start the car.)  If so, check between the
>> return line from the pump and ground.  Look carefully at the wiring harness
>> for places where the smoke might have escaped, does the tape covering the
>> harness look like it might have gotten hot and melted anywhere?  Do you
>> have a wiring diagram?   Make as big a copy as you can and trace the wires
>> leading to the fuel pump and anything else that is not working properly.
>> Inspect these wires thoroughly for signs of damage.
>> Have a beer and relax, come back to it tomorrow.
>> You can do it.
>> Hal
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The list serve is super slow many messages not getting through the cable
>>> works but new pump not getting power. I broke down a mile away. Can I run
>>> the line directly to the battery to test if it's shot? I'm thinking if the
>>> fuse to the pump is still good it should work. One fuse blew at the box and
>>> I replaced it. I now have headlights but still no pump.
>>>
>>> Lin
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 4:37 PM, CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Depending on the cable, it may have a metal collar on either end.
>>>> Generally, the carb side will wear into the collar and cause sticking
>>>> issues. Inspect it if it has the collar at the end. Look closely for a
>>>> cable sized wear spot on the flat where the cable comes through. Check for
>>>> wear on the cable too! If a wire wears through it can bend and cause
>>>> sticking.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
>>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>> Giving some well needed love to little Pinky today. Any suggestions
>>>>> for the best cleaning and lubricant for my throttle cable? It doesn't snap
>>>>> back freely and I suspect dirt and grime.
>>>>> Lin
>>>>>
>>>>> Spammers go home!
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>>>> 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Lin,<br></div>Not sure what =
you mean by,&quot;if the light goes on....&quot;<br></div>Electrical proble=
ms can be very frustrating, voltages that seem good may drop under load as =
resistance from bad connections causes Ohm&#39;s Law to come into play in a=
 big way.=C2=A0 <br></div>Sometimes the solution doesn&#39;t seem obvious a=
t all: I once replaced a starter twice,before I took my mechanic&#39;s advi=
ce and replaced the battery cables!=C2=A0 Took me quite a while to live tha=
t down. <br></div>Earlier you said the battery was at 12 Volts, this seems =
a bit low as a fully charged battery should be closer to 14 Volts.<br></div=
>I would still expect the fuel pump to work, but if you have a fresh batter=
y that you can swap in temporarily it might prove informative.<br></div>Hal=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon,=
 Jun 13, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Linda Grunthaner <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:grunthaner@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">grunthaner@gmail.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hal,<div=
>I&#39;ve got a multimeter, OK will do. I did get the continuity tester lig=
ht to light and now thinking how stupid I should have tried to pull the sta=
rter as that&#39;s how I would know if the starter works. I will clean all =
connectors and test with multimeter and use heavy gauge wire now can I go d=
irectly to the battery then pull the starter to test the starter? I will ge=
t a new battery if needed.</div><div>Lin</div><div><br></div><div>PS if the=
 light goes on via pump power doesn&#39;t it mean the pump is in working co=
ndition?</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div><div class=3D"h5">On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Hal Faulkner vi=
a Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></di=
v></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div><div><div>Lin, Do you have a multi meter?=C2=A0 Since you are gett=
ing multiple symptoms I would begin by checking ALL ground connections. Do =
you have electrical power to the pump?=C2=A0 (measure between the hot lead =
and ground with the ignition on, but not trying to start the car.)=C2=A0 If=
 so, check between the return line from the pump and ground.=C2=A0 Look car=
efully at the wiring harness for places where the smoke might have escaped,=
 does the tape covering the harness look like it might have gotten hot and =
melted anywhere?=C2=A0 Do you have a wiring diagram?=C2=A0=C2=A0 Make as bi=
g a copy as you can and trace the wires leading to the fuel pump and anythi=
ng else that is not working properly.=C2=A0 Inspect these wires thoroughly =
for signs of damage. <br></div>Have a beer and relax, come back to it tomor=
row.<br></div>You can do it.<br></div>Hal<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div>On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 2:12 PM=
, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sp=
ridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">The list serve is super slow many messages not getting through =
the cable works but new pump not getting power. I broke down a mile away. C=
an I run the line directly to the battery to test if it&#39;s shot? I&#39;m=
 thinking if the fuse to the pump is still good it should work. One fuse bl=
ew at the box and I replaced it. I now have headlights but still no pump.=
=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Lin</div></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 4:37 PM, CosmicMa=
g1380 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cosmicmag1380@gmail.com"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">cosmicmag1380@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Depending on the cable, it may have a m=
etal collar on either end. Generally, the carb side will wear into the coll=
ar and cause sticking issues. Inspect it if it has the collar at the end. L=
ook closely for a cable sized wear spot on the flat where the cable comes t=
hrough. Check for wear on the cable too! If a wire wears through it can ben=
d and cause sticking.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div><div>On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Linda Grunthaner =
via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></=
div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi List=
,<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:&#39;San Francisco&#39=
;,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,&#39;.SFNSText-Regular&#39;,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:14px;letter-spacing:-0.23999999463558197px;white-space:pre-wrap">G=
iving some well needed love to little Pinky today. Any suggestions for the =
best cleaning and lubricant for my throttle cable? It doesn&#39;t snap back=
 freely and I suspect dirt and grime.=C2=A0</span></div><div><font color=3D=
"#1d2129" face=3D"San Francisco, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, .SFNSTe=
xt-Regular, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;letter-spacing:-0.239=
99999463558197px;white-space:pre-wrap">Lin</span></font></div><div><font co=
lor=3D"#1d2129" face=3D"San Francisco, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, .=
SFNSText-Regular, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;letter-spacing:=
-0.23999999463558197px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></div><div><=
font color=3D"#1d2129"><font face=3D"San Francisco, -apple-system, BlinkMac=
SystemFont, .SFNSText-Regular, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;le=
tter-spacing:-0.23999999463558197px;white-space:pre-wrap">Spammers</span></=
font>=C2=A0go home!<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br clear=3D"all"></font><=
/span></font><span><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div>-- <br><div data-=
smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:sma=
ll">&quot;Pay if forward&quot; in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut</sp=
an><br></div></div>
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