Laygear is always needed as a replacement when the first gear is going or
gone. Both of those parts are available , 22G1100 laygear, 22G1118 first
speed wheel, but are so spendy it makes a Datsun conversion really
attractive and usually cheaper.
But Paul is claiming 2nd gear is going out, either in noise, pops out of
gear or synchro is shot, he didn't say. This sounds like a thrust washer
on the output shaft bad, (expensive) or the needle bearings starting to
fail or the thrust sides of second gear wearing. (usually cheap!) But
again may be expensive as the output shaft is usually damaged then. The
1st speed wheel may also have the locking cogs badly worn, all of these
might be possible or something else. Won't know until the gearbox is
examined and then a good cry at the kitchen table!!
Paul
PAsgeirsson@juno.com
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:31:23 -0800 "Greg Gowins" <cartman@dnai.com>
writes:
>Hello listers,
>
>In my experience with original gearboxes, the main problem seems to be
>the
>laygear. VB's repair kit doesn't include one, and in general they are
>very
>hard to find. You can replace everything else, but the laygear is
>essentially the heart of the tranny, and if it's worn, then putting in
>other
>new parts really doesn't buy a whole lot. That is why recently
>"rebuilt"
>trannies go out so quickly. They have all new parts, except for the
>laygear. Anyone else feel the same way on this?
>
>Greg Gowins
>'69 Sprite (with 5 speed Datsun tranny)
>Dublin, CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-spridgets@autox.team.net
>[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Ken Waringa
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 11:45 AM
>To: wizardz
>Cc: Midgets
>Subject: RE: tranny 2nd gear replacement
>
>Paul, you do have to pretty much disassemble the gearbox. If you are
>going
>that far you might as well put new bearings and layshaft in as well.
>Make
>sure you have a good manual. I used the Haynes manual which leaves a
>lot to
>be desired for a gearbox rebuild. My gearbox leaked all the oil out
>and the
>bearings went bad. Of course, my son never noticed the increased
>noise or
>grinding coming from it while he drove to college each day. I found
>the
>layshaft deeply grooved and layshaft bearings shot. VB has a rebuild
>kit
>that I bought and installed. It includes the bearings, layshaft, and
>gaskets. Don't skimp when rebuilding the box. I didn't replace the
>needle
>bearings on the mainshaft under the gears, big mistake. After my son
>driving the car to college daily for 2 months it's making a lot of
>noise
>again. I have another gearbox I also rebuilt so I'm going to install
>it and
>hope for the best. This one only had a bad input shaft bearing.
>
>When you disassemble the gearbox, watch for springs and ball bearings,
>especially the syncro hubs. There are ball bearings that are spring
>loaded
>under the outer hub. If you inadvertently move the outer hub wrong
>the
>balls and springs fly. Believe me they are very hard to find again.
>I
>spent hours in my knees in the garage looking for the stupid things.
>
>If I can be of any assistance don't hesitate to ask. This is my work
>email.
>My home email is kcwaringa@worldnet.att.net
>
>Good Luck
>
>Ken Waringa
>71 TR6
>74 Midget
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-spridgets@autox.team.net
>[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]
>On Behalf Of wizardz
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 1:02 PM
>To: spridgets@autox.team.net
>Subject: tranny 2nd gear replacement
>
>Well... I haven't even checked it out yet...
>but I am under the impression 2nd gear might be gone in my
>newest toy. I'll find out this weekend after I rebuild the clutch
>slave cyl
>
>How hard... what's invloved in replacing the gear.
>I see VB even has the gear up front in their catalog so I'm assuming
>this is a common mality of the box.
>does the entire box have to be dis-assembled just to get the gear
>switched
>out
>or are there any ';words of wisdom' or 'short-cuts' to swapping the
>gear out
>if that's
>what I need to do.
>
>
>Paul Tegler
>OBie - 1973 BGT - Daily Driver
>http://www.teglerizer.com/mgstuff/ob_description.htm
>Rat - 1980 Spitfire - fledgling recently left the nest
>http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphstuff/spit80.htm
>Punkin' - 1978 Spitfire - in Superb Shape!
>http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphstuff/spit78.htm
>Lil Greenee - 1973 RWA Midget - finally home
>http://www.teglerizer.com/midgetstuff/index.html
>email: wizardz@toad.net http://www.teglerizer.com
>
>
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