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Hi Paul,
That is a great suggestion about trying it once the heads are hot,
particularly for an aluminum head engine. Great advice!
On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 5:18=E2=80=AFAM Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky@gmail.com=
> wrote:
> Are you trying to get them out on a hot or cold engine? Toss the ratchet
> with the plug wrench and a pair of thick gloves (for the heat) in the
> center console and next time he parks it after a nice long drive on the
> highway have him try the plugs right away. That aluminum head will have a
> much higher coefficient of linear expansion than steel so getting it good
> and hot should give you a better shot.
>
> -Paul
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 11:59=E2=80=AFPM John T Blair <jblair1948@cox.net=
> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 10, 2025 at 07:41:27 PM EST, you wrote:
>>
>> >I am a big believer in impact wrenches, air or electric. It is that
>> fast, hard whack they give
>> >that actually puts less torque against the threads. Penetrating oil may
>> or may not do
>> >anything, but if you wanted to soak them down overnight and then hit it
>> with an impact
>> >wrench in the morning, I would not be surprised if they all came out
>> without any damage.
>> >
>> >If they do not need changing at this point (new plugs can last 100K
>> miles) you might just
>> >want to leave sleeping dogs lie.
>>
>> Douglas,
>>
>> Currently that's what we are doing. He got it back together as I was
>> leaving. He said he fired it up, and took for a test drive, no CIL, ran
>> fine. But this is something I've been afraid of
>> with the cars going 100Kmi / plug change. We really don't know how many
>> miles are on these plugs as he's the 3rd owner. I was figuring that if =
he
>> was going to be in there, why not changed the plugs. But when we ran in=
to
>> this problem he and I agreed, "if it aint broke, don't fix it".
>>
>> But I've got an 06 Scion xB with 64K mi, and a 12 second gen xB with
>> 74Kmi and neither has had the plugs changed. So I'm worried I may have =
the
>> same problem.[image: Emoji]
>>
>> If we decide to get the plugs out in the near future, I'll keep you
>> posted, but don't hold your breath.
>>
>> Thanks to all that responded.
>>
>> JohnT
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hi =
Paul,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">That is a great sug=
gestion about trying it once the heads are hot, particularly for an aluminu=
m head engine. Great advice!</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail=
_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 11, 202=
5 at 5:18=E2=80=AFAM Paul Parkanzky <<a href=3D"mailto:parkanzky@gmail.c=
om">parkanzky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Are you trying to get them out=
on a hot or cold engine? Toss the ratchet with the plug wrench and a pair =
of thick gloves (for the heat) in the center console=C2=A0and next time he =
parks it after a nice long drive on the highway have him try the plugs righ=
t away. That aluminum head will have a much higher coefficient of linear ex=
pansion than steel so getting it good and hot should give you a better shot=
.</div><div><br></div><div>-Paul</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 11:59=E2=80=AFPM Jo=
hn T Blair <<a href=3D"mailto:jblair1948@cox.net"; target=3D"_blank">jbla=
ir1948@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Hel=
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On Monday, November 10, 2025 at 07:41:27 PM EST,=C2=
=A0 you wrote: <br></div><div><br></div><div>>I am a big believer in imp=
act wrenches, air or electric. It is that fast, hard whack they give=C2=A0<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>></span>that actually puts less torque again=
st the threads. Penetrating oil may or may not do=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><span>></span>anything, but if you wanted to soak them down overnight=
and then hit it with an impact=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>></spa=
n>wrench in the morning, I would not be surprised if they all came out with=
out any damage.</div><div><div id=3D"m_8678888934215367342m_-16291732823307=
37631ydp9cf4150fyiv5900319137"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-siz=
e:small" dir=3D"ltr"><span>></span><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=
=3D"font-size:small" dir=3D"ltr"><span>></span>If they do not need chang=
ing at this point (new plugs can last 100K miles) you might just=C2=A0</div=
><div style=3D"font-size:small" dir=3D"ltr"><span>></span>want to leave =
sleeping dogs lie.</div></div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Douglas,</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Currently that's what we a=
re doing.=C2=A0 He got it back together as I was leaving.=C2=A0 He said he =
fired it up, and took for a test drive, no CIL, ran fine.=C2=A0 But this is=
something I've been afraid of <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">with the cars=
going 100Kmi / plug change.=C2=A0 We really don't know how many miles =
are on these plugs as he's the 3rd owner.=C2=A0 I was figuring that if =
he was going to be in there, why not changed the plugs.=C2=A0 But when we r=
an into this problem he and I agreed, "if it aint broke, don't fix=
it".</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">But I've go=
t an 06 Scion xB with 64K mi, and a 12 second gen xB with 74Kmi and neither=
has had the plugs changed.=C2=A0 So I'm worried I may have the same pr=
oblem.<img title=3D"Emoji" alt=3D"Emoji" style=3D"padding: 0px 2px; vertica=
l-align: middle;" width=3D"16" height=3D"16"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">If we decide to get the plugs out in the near future, I=
'll keep you posted, but don't hold your breath. <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks to all that responded.</div><div=
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JohnT</div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div></div>
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