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To: alfuller194@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective....
From: MIQ MILLMAN <miq@bigllama.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:15:11 -0700
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These foam inserts decrease ambient noise by 16-18 dB.

If there's a crying kid on the plane you can ignore them fairly easily, but
still converse with the flight attendant.  However, I pull them out to have
a conversation.

I've never used them while driving, because I don't typically listen to
music on my phone, but also because it's illegal in 1/3 of the States to
have ear buds in while driving.

As a point of reference,  the roll-squeeze foam ear plugs that are used for
heavy equipment or shooting ranges decrease noise by 32-38 dB.  These
_will_ block horns and distant sirens.

If you live in a state where it's legal to use ear buds, try it out.
  --Miq



On Sat, Oct 26, 2024, 9:46=E2=80=AFPM <alfuller194@gmail.com> wrote:

> Miq =E2=80=93 do you have any feel for whether the earphones you recommen=
ded allow
> enough ambient sound in to be used when driving an open car?  I could use
> something that knocks down the road- and wind-noise, but still allows me =
to
> hear sirens, horns, etc. [not to mention being on the legal side of being
> able to hear]. I=E2=80=99ve used similar units in the past, combining bas=
ic
> off-the-shelf earphones with custom ear molds.
>
>
>
> It would be great to get something that works without a lot of work!!
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> *From:* Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *MIQ
> MILLMAN
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:21 PM
> *To:* Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
> *Cc:* Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective....
>
>
>
> Airplanes are one of the last few things that are still using 3.5mm jacks
> for audio.
>
>
>
> I use these:
>
>
>
> https://a.co/d/gKquRdn
>
>
>
> They have changeable wired connectors that allow me to swap them for a
> usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or tablet.
>
>
>
> One change I do is swap out the thin silicon bulbs for the ear canal with
> a replacement memory foam upgrade:
>
>
>
> https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx
>
>
>
> I've used this most recently on a trip to India where I was in a plane fo=
r
> over 16 hours on the longest leg, as well as a couple of 17+ hour flights
> to South Africa.
>
>
>
> These earbuds are not active, but with the memory foam they do a great jo=
b
> and  have excellent sound quality for under $30
>
>
>
> I had another pair that lasted at least 10 years, thanks to being able to
> replace the wires when they degraded from over bending.
>
>
>
> I've been flying a lot the past 3 years, averaging over 150,000 miles of
> international travel, and used them even when flying business/first where
> the airline offers a powered over ear headset in the seat, due to comfort=
.
>
>
>
> ymmv
>
>   --Miq
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:19=E2=80=AFPM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.=
com>
> wrote:
>
> .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask.
>
>
>
> I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight.
>
>
>
> I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I
> would consider wireless.
>
>
>
> I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on
> other topics, firsthand knowledge.
>
>
>
> My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot
> find any email proof of this.
>
>
>
> Thanks all
>
> a foggy old man
>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>These foam inserts decrease ambient noise by 16-18 d=
B.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If there&#39;s a crying kid=
 on the plane you can ignore them fairly easily, but still converse with th=
e flight attendant.=C2=A0 However, I pull them out to have a conversation.=
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ve never us=
ed them while driving, because I don&#39;t typically listen to music on my =
phone, but also because it&#39;s illegal in 1/3 of the States to have ear b=
uds in while driving.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>As a point of =
reference,=C2=A0 the roll-squeeze foam ear plugs that are used for heavy eq=
uipment or shooting ranges decrease noise by 32-38 dB.=C2=A0 These _will_ b=
lock horns and distant sirens.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto">If you live in a state where it&#39;s legal to use ear b=
uds, try it out.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 --Miq</div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=
=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 26, 2024, 9:46=
=E2=80=AFPM  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com";>alfuller194@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN=
-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div cla=
ss=3D"m_7990028572878735704WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Miq =E2=80=93 do you have any feel for whether the ea=
rphones you recommended allow enough ambient sound in to be used when drivi=
ng an open car?=C2=A0 I could use something that knocks down the road- and =
wind-noise, but still allows me to hear sirens, horns, etc. [not to mention=
 being on the legal side of being able to hear]. I=E2=80=99ve used similar =
units in the past, combining basic off-the-shelf earphones with custom ear =
molds.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt">It would be great to get something that works witho=
ut a lot of work!!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-ser=
if">-----------------------------------<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,sans-serif">All the best,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Al Fuller<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e=
1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D=
"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-ser=
if"> Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <=
b>On Behalf Of </b>MIQ MILLMAN<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 26, 2024 1=
2:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a=
>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Shop Talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br=
><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective....<u></u><=
u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Airplanes are one of the last few things that are st=
ill using 3.5mm jacks for audio.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I use these:<u=
></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://a.co/d/gKquRdn"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://a.co/d/gKquRdn</a><u></u><u></u></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">They have changeable wired connectors that allow me to swa=
p them for a usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or tablet.<u=
></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One change I do is swap out the thin silic=
on bulbs for the ear canal with a replacement memory foam upgrade:<u></u><u=
></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx"; target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">I&#39;ve used this most recently on a trip to India where I was in=
 a plane for over 16 hours on the longest leg, as well as a couple of 17+ h=
our flights to South Africa.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">These earbud=
s are not active, but with the memory foam they do a great job and=C2=A0 ha=
ve excellent sound quality for under $30<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
I had another pair that lasted at least 10 years, thanks to being able to r=
eplace the wires when they degraded from over bending.<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;ve been flying a lot the past 3 years, averaging over =
150,000 miles of international travel, and used them even when flying busin=
ess/first where the airline offers a powered over ear headset in the seat, =
due to comfort.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">ymmv<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 --Miq<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Oct 2=
5, 2024 at 7:19<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">=E2=
=80=AF</span>PM Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:=
solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-righ=
t:0in"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">.....OT ask but you all have more =
knowledge than anyone else I can ask.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,s=
ans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;co=
lor:black">I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight.=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I prefer wired for some fool =
reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider wireless.<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I did some google searching but prefer, a=
gain, as I&#39;ve asked before on other topics, firsthand knowledge.=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">My fogged brain thinks I&#39;ve ask=
ed about this topic before but I cannot find any email proof of this.=C2=A0=
<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Thanks all<u></u><u></u></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">a foggy old man<u></u><u></u></span></p></di=
v></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">_____________=
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