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To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> engine=ICAP:2.0.272,Aquarius:18.0.1011,Hydra:6.0.650,FMLib:17.11.176.26 definitions=2024-04-26_21,2024-04-26_02,2023-05-22_02 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 spamscore=0 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 clxscore=1011 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.19.0-2308100000 definitions=main-2404270007
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges
From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 20:14:50 -0500
Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Many years ago I worked in the Chemical Eng=
ineering Department at UT Austin &amp; in their main lab they had an hydraul=
ic/weight calibrator for pressure gauges. If you have a university nearby yo=
u might give them a call. Rather than calibrate the entire gauge, you could j=
ust find out what one gauge reads @ the tire pressure you use &amp; calibrat=
e any other ones to that gauge.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Peace, Pat</div><di=
v><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for=
 Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Apr 26, 2024, at=
 5:36=E2=80=AFPM, Bob Spidell &lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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    I can name at least one place off the top-of-my-head that can
    calibrate torque wrenches, but not one that I know of that can
    calibrate pressure gauges (I do think some laboratories can do it).<br>
    <br>
    I have several analog gauges that don't agree (one is adjustable). I
    have 3 Accutire digital gauges that all agree with each other and my
    Mustang's TPMS; at least I have repeatability. I set tire pressure
    according to how the tires wear.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 4/26/2024 10:26 AM,
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail=
.com">alfuller194@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Sorry for
            the late reply =E2=80=93 I have no idea where several weeks=E2=80=
=99 worth
            of messages have been hanging out!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;<=
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">It might be
            worth checking with someone who already has their gauges
            calibrated and comparing readings. I would hope the new car
            dealers service department would actually calibrate gauges
            used on customer cars, but would ask to be sure. It also
            occurs to me that last time I moved the movers damaged my
            air compressor, and the insurance company has a local
            company that repairs them. I wonder if they have calibrated
            gauges, and if one could compare readings with theirs=E2=80=A6<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">All
            the best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Al
            Fuller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p>
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          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
              Shop-talk <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:sh=
op-talk-bounces@autox.team.net">&lt;shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>=
 <b>On
                Behalf Of </b>Jeff Scarbrough<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 7, 2024 1:13 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Benjamin Zwissler <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E=
" href=3D"mailto:bjzwissler@gmail.com";>&lt;bjzwissler@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Cc:</b> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailt=
o:Shop-talk@autox.team.net">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I know that one foot of water column
            equals 0.433 psi.&nbsp; So about 70 feet of 2" pipe attached to
            the side of a tall building with a thin diaphragm over a
            chamber with a Schrader valve should get you close.&nbsp; Might
            need to make a manometer out of it, so you'll need more
            pipe.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">It's low cost, but not very practical.&nb=
sp;
              &nbsp;I did have a set of weights and an oil reservoir for
              calibrating liquid pressure, but liquids are not (for our
              purposes) compressible and air is.&nbsp; So I don't know how
              accurate that might be.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you had some mercury, a 5 foot
              column should do the trick.&nbsp; Don't tell the EPD, though.<=
o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
          </div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p>
          <div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 15:37 Benjamin
                Zwissler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bjzwissler@gmail.com"; moz-do-=
not-send=3D"true" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">bjzwissler@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt=
;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
              <div>
                <div>
                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I calibrate my Milton (which has
                    consistently read high) to my wife's tpms value.&nbsp;
                    &nbsp;Partly because I assume the car is right and partl=
y
                    because I don't like it when she's telling me a week
                    later that she's getting low pressure lights again.&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <div>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I don't know how to create an
                      inexpensive standard for calibration.&nbsp; &nbsp;The M=
ilton
                      is the most expensive gauge I have and has been
                      the least accurate. I looked it up on line and
                      found lots of similar complaints about its
                      inaccuracy.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any ideas on creating a low
                      cost pressure standard for calibration?<o:p></o:p></p>=

                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ben&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 1:49<span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>PM Jeff
                        Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext"=
>fishplate@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCC=
CC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
                      <div>
                        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">So, I have three tire
                          gauges:&nbsp; Accutire electronic, Jayco
                          mechanical, and Milton Inflator hose with
                          gauge.&nbsp; All three report consistently, and&nb=
sp;all
                          three are 3-4 psi different - low to high in
                          the above order.<br>
                          <br>
                          Is there a simple way to check accuracy?&nbsp;&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <div>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp; Jeff&nbsp;<o:=
p></o:p></p>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
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