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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Next question I have is what is the purpose=
of the gate? Keep honest people out? Keep someone from driving through the c=
losed gate? Keep livestock in/out?<div><br></div><div>There are a lot of sli=
ding gates around here, I=E2=80=99ll take a look at how much they overlap. S=
ome are cantilevered & some have a v-wheel that rides on an angle iron t=
rack across the drive. Ones I recall seeing don=E2=80=99t overlap on the sid=
e the gate goes to, but there is a stationary =E2=80=9CY=E2=80=9D shaped gui=
de that the gate goes into. The Y is on the gate post but could just as easi=
ly be on the gate. </div><div><br></div><div>I can send you some photos=
if you like, it would take me a few days to go around & get them. =
</div><div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat H=
orne <div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Feb 16, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmai=
l.com> wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"=
content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Thanks for all of the a=
dvice, guys. The area between the garage and the gate is not all that g=
reat and I think a single swinging gate would be more trouble than it is wor=
th. That said, I am starting to think that a sliding gate might be the way t=
o go and I have plenty of room on one side for the gate to slide. But,=
I know nothing about siding gates and have some research to do. And, f=
abricating one 16=E2=80=99 or so frame (I gather you need plenty of overlap o=
n each end) seems a lot more work than two 6.5=E2=80=99 ones. Lots to f=
igure out, but fortunately I have time. I=E2=80=99ll try to remember t=
o update the list when I am done.<div><br></div><div>Jim</div><div><br><div>=
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:06 PM, old dirtbea=
rd <dirtbeard@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-ne=
wline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size=
:small">Hi Jim,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">My gate ope=
ning also is just over 13' and I am using a single swing gate with one of th=
e GTO SW4000 XLS gate openers. </div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-si=
ze:small">This opener is rated for up to 20' gates and 1,000 lbs. It should b=
e about $1,100 if you have room for a single swing gate:</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a href=3D"https://www.gatecrafters=
.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMInbXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq7EAQ=
YASABEgIeJvD_BwE">https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gclid=
=3DEAIaIQobChMInbXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE</a></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-size:small">These all run on battery with a charger t=
hat could be from 110VAC. I ran 110 VAC in buried conduit to the gate (I wan=
ted AC receptacles there anyway) and then plugged the charger in there, but y=
ou also could run the low voltage cable in the ground from the charger in th=
e garage out to the gate.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-si=
ze:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">A=
solar charger also would be sufficient to keep the battery charged if you d=
o not want to run cable or you do not want AC out at the gate. There re=
ally is no need for AC at the gate unless you want it..</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-size:small">I also am just using the remote to open and clo=
se the gate from the cars, garage, house, etc. There is no reason to run con=
trol wires.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I can send phot=
os if you would like.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:s=
mall"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">best,=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">doug</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 6:15 P=
M Jim Stone <<a href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com";>1789alpine@gmail.com=
</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Th=
e driveway opening is just over 13=E2=80=99, so two 6 1/2=E2=80=99 gates.&nb=
sp; The gates are about 40=E2=80=99 from the garage and I plan on burying a s=
ection of pvc conduit from the gate to the garage to run the wire and put th=
e controls in the garage. I=E2=80=99ll probably use a battery backup, b=
ut our power is pretty reliable and I have a back-up generator wired into th=
e main panel (manual transfer switch) so losing power wouldn=E2=80=99t be to=
o big a deal. The back is pretty shaded and running wire to a sunny ar=
ea for solar panel wouldn=E2=80=99t be any easier than just running it to th=
e garage, so I=E2=80=99ll probably skip that. Weather-wise we are on E=
astern Long Island and our climate isn=E2=80=99t too extreme, especially com=
pared to Michigan!<br>
<br>
As for a keypad, whether or not I add one will depend on when I get this all=
done. We=E2=80=99re just starting an addition to our house and contra=
ctors and construction vehicles need access to the back driveway (our house i=
s a thru lot). After that, it is pretty much just my wife and me and t=
he main entrance to the house is in the front, so guests won=E2=80=99t often=
need access to the back.<br>
<br>
My main interest at this point is brand recommendations. It is hard to=
make exact comparisons, but it looks like the basic system (minus back up b=
atteries, solar panels, etc.) will run me anywhere from around $700 to $2000=
, which is a pretty wide range. Common, readily available brands I=E2=80=
=99ve seen appear to be Mighty Mule, Ghost Controls, Topens. Doug on t=
his list recommended a GTO until that looks really nice, but is about $1700 f=
or dual gates and might be overkill for my needs. That said, having a t=
rusted satisfied customer recommendation is worth a lot, so that remains in t=
he consideration set.<br>
<br>
I=E2=80=99m still in the researching phase, so any input will be greatly app=
reciated.<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
> On Feb 13, 2023, at 3:43 PM, <<a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>> <<a href=3D"mailto:alf=
uller194@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<b=
r>
> <br>
> Hi Jim:<br>
> <br>
> Do you have any particular needs as far as gate configuration go?<br>
> <br>
> My step-mother has a swing gate, but the clearance to the street means y=
ou<br>
> have to [1] when entering wait on the street for it to open, with added=
risk<br>
> of oncoming traffic, and [2] when leaving - wait on the street to ensur=
e it<br>
> closed.<br>
> <br>
> A condo complex in California had a lift-up gate, which constantly brok=
e the<br>
> belts that held up the gate. We really didn't need a lit gate, as there=
was<br>
> never an snow...<br>
> <br>
> Places in Michigan had gates that swung or retracted, but they would ge=
t<br>
> hung up in the snow or ice in the winter...<br>
> <br>
> If you are in a place where the electric power is unreliable, you might=
want<br>
> to consider solar power and/or backup. Do you need or want to int=
egrate a<br>
> keypad into the controls? Same for an intercom?<br>
> <br>
> I'm sure there are more considerations, but those are what come immedia=
tely<br>
> to mind.<br>
> <br>
> ----------------<br>
> All the best,<br>
> <br>
> Al Fuller<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
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> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 11:30 AM<br>
> To: Shop Talk <<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net"; target=3D=
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> Subject: [Shop-talk] Automatic driveway gates<br>
> <br>
> Does anyone have any experience installing automatic driveway gate open=
ers?<br>
> It looks pretty straight-forward, but any advice and/or brand<br>
> recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I will be installin=
g a dual<br>
> gate opener for the driveway to my shop.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Jim<br>
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