"...I had the service run in plastic conduit - but - for reasons that
escape me right now - didn't run any fiber. I regret that, and intend
to order a pre-made 6-strand OS3 fiber cable and pull it through this
summer. "
I know you can't mix medium-voltage and low voltage cables in the same
conduit. Can you run fiber with the electric service? Is that a good
idea?
-- Jeff
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 10:41 PM Peter Murray <peterwmurray@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> John-
>
> How much bandwidth do you want in your shop?
>
> I have used network-over-powerline adapters for quite a while now, and have
> had good success with them. I have an outbuilding/home office about 200' from
> my house, and those adapters provided a very serviceable connection between
> the outbuilding and the house (about 25Mbit). As others have pointed out,
> you'll have best luck with them with them both operating on the same hot leg
> of your 240V split-phase power. It can be hit or miss, but a pair of
> "2000Mbit" units isn't terribly expensive. I wouldn't be surprised in the
> least if you find they work just fine for you. I would connect one of them to
> an available LAN ethernet ports (likely on your router) and the other (in the
> shop) in a convenient outlet. You can get versions that have built in PoE
> (for an access point, perhaps), or you can adapt another router/AP to simply
> provide wifi in the shop. There are also network-over-power/AP combo units as
> well. Don't forget that the network-over-powerline units don't operate in
> pairs - you can place several wherever you need them, and they'll act like
> additional ethernet ports. I like the TP-Link gear, and units with a
> pass-through power port and a couple of ports are wicked handy.
>
> In my situation, I do have clear line of sight and have "upgraded" from the
> network-over-power units to a Ubiquiti mesh link, which yields about
> 150-200Mbit of actual throughput. If you are truly only 300' from one
> building to the other, I think you'll not have any trouble linking the two
> locations using 5GHz wireless. The trees will attenuate, but you can focus
> the power available to increase your link budget and "burn through" the
> vegetation. I'd look at a pair of Ubiquiti LiteBeam Gen2 units (pretty cheap
> on Amazon) - they'll get you somewhere around 250-300Mbit of throughput with
> 80MHz channel usage. Narrower channel usage will yield better reliability if
> that balance needs to be struck. They have about a 12 degree beamwidth, so
> they're pretty forgiving with your aim, but the available power is focused
> where you want it.
>
> When I installed 60A/240V service in my tiny outbuilding, I had the service
> run in plastic conduit - but - for reasons that escape me right now - didn't
> run any fiber. I regret that, and intend to order a pre-made 6-strand OS3
> fiber cable and pull it through this summer. I'll light it up at 1Gbit (for
> the moment). With LC connectors on each end of the fiber, the ethernet
> switches and mini-GBIC units needed to turn it into conventional copper
> ethernet are cheap, and I don't worry about my ham radio RF or lightning
> strikes acting on a big copper ethernet line like an antenna. LANShack is who
> I'm looking at for the fiber, by the way.
>
> If you're not averse to running a copper cable, 330' is your ethernet maximum
> (100m). If you go that route, I'd go with Cat6, and I'd put it in flexible
> conduit, guessing that you don't already have conduit in place. You don't
> really even need to worry about putting it below the frost line - goodness
> knows that Cox (our local coax cable company) and Verizon FiOS don't. That
> said, I would suggest calling your local utility marking outfit before you
> dig.
>
> Happy to talk further!
>
> -Peter (independent IT guy, radio amateur)
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 6:02 PM john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to get some 'reliable' internet service to my unattached shop
>> building... just a shade too far for cable access (just under 300 feet of
>> cable) and too many obstacles for wireless
>> \even with an extender... looking at powerline units... two boxes...modem
>> plugs into one and it plugs into 120 v plug...other box plugs into any other
>> plug on same
>> breaker box and the laptop plugs into it with cat-5-cable..
>>
>> anyone have any experienced with this type service ??
>>
>> example:
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/275159414599?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110018%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.COMPLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D238115%26meid%3D9d4234b8cade433b81c8265e84d81de8%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D10%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D265638365047%26itm%3D275159414599%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DItemStripV101HighAdFeeWithCompV3Ranker%26brand%3DNETGEAR&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219&amdata=cksum%3A2751594145999d4234b8cade433b81c8265e84d81de8%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAABAMwaiCkD4Jz%252FAA1ytZhxVAzuCsqdmLW9ojO6k7lKEs76vKeVo8baO64duoLIjpcgMP90FFiVgMKbdjh7IgvEI%252BQJgW4gEnxkDA5yYEh7wlEj%252FSuKUyH0RJbKQh7dzMgt%252BJRsfe1bI7Jq%252BzI1fyQLcD4HuL%252FMQUHFh10KutrC3t3VJZoR0sVMt6IDKUo7JSyE07Tq52Ka8iPzC9czJ30Nj43ezZTHfxDa3MVT0chETDN2ahqtYKn1MU6wPLlb5sYl6h8pA6VP72FCgmJMYEVr0A8gmzhmomEh75XqFQfAefFiX4hPo%252BiZmySE8%252Bh4nUWX3cDN7k4ixdEcXiYyvMaWhsA%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675&epid=1186426581
>>
>> thanks
>> john
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