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Re: [Shop-talk] Bear proof bird feeder.

To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>, "watsonm05@comcast.net" <watsonm05@comcast.net>, "shop-talk@autox.team.net" <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Bear proof bird feeder.
From: "Peter J. Thomas" <pj_thomas@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 07:52:12 -0400
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Thanks!!!  I been toying with 10 gauge (1/8") or 16 gauge with 
reinforcements.  Going to see what cutoffs the metal deal has.  Black 
bear or two.  There is a pair that roams town.



On 4/2/2022 11:24 AM, DAVID MASSEY wrote:
> I'm sure 1/4 inch steel plate will stand up to any bear.  Even 1/8 
> inch plate will work.  Will 16 gauge steel be good enough?  Dunno.  
> Depends a lot on the dimensions.  Larger surfaces will more easily 
> succumb to bear attack.  Also, return bends on the edges make it much 
> stronger than a cut edge.  Dimensions matter
>
> Another thing, what kind of bear are we talking about?  Grizzly, 
> brown, Yogi?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter J. Thomas <pj_thomas@comcast.net>
> To: Mark Watson <watsonm05@comcast.net>; shop-talk@autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 9:00 am
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Bear proof bird feeder.
>
> I'll bet the would.  Though I sure a 3" 14 gauge post fill with concrete
> and cemetted to bedrock with rebar gussets should with stand the bears.
> I wondering more about what gauge steel plate I should use fabricate the
> bird feeder and weld it to the top of the post.  Feeder will only be
> about 6 feet off the ground so it's visible from inside the house.
>
> On 4/1/2022 6:59 AM, Mark Watson wrote:
> > Instant thought: BOOOIIINNNGGG
> >
> > And imagine if the bears decide they like boinging it over and 
> over.  What a video that would make!
> >
> >> On 04/01/2022 2:50 AM Mark Miller <markmiller@threeboysfarm.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Consider letting them bend it as they wish.  Weld a large spring
> >> (perhaps a garage door spring, a car suspension spring, something easy
> >> to find and heavy) and let them bend it as they wish. When they are 
> done
> >> it will return to vertical undamaged.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Mark Miller  707-490-5834
> >> markmiller@threeboysfarm.com
> >>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks!!!  I been toying with 10 gauge
      (1/8") or 16 gauge with reinforcements.  Going to see what cutoffs
      the metal deal has.  Black bear or two.  There is a pair that
      roams town.<br>
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      On 4/2/2022 11:24 AM, DAVID MASSEY wrote:<br>
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        <div> <font size="3">I'm sure 1/4 inch steel plate will stand
            up to any bear.  Even 1/8 inch plate will work.  Will 16
            gauge steel be good enough?  Dunno.  Depends a lot on the
            dimensions.  Larger surfaces will more easily succumb to
            bear attack.  Also, return bends on the edges make it much
            stronger than a cut edge.  Dimensions matter</font></div>
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        <div><font size="3">Another thing, what kind of bear are we
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            From: Peter J. Thomas <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:pj_thomas@comcast.net";>&lt;pj_thomas@comcast.net&gt;</a><br>
            To: Mark Watson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            <div dir="ltr">I'll bet the would.  Though I sure a 3" 14
              gauge post fill with concrete <br clear="none">
              and cemetted to bedrock with rebar gussets should with
              stand the bears.  <br clear="none">
              I wondering more about what gauge steel plate I should use
              fabricate the <br clear="none">
              bird feeder and weld it to the top of the post.  Feeder
              will only be <br clear="none">
              about 6 feet off the ground so it's visible from inside
              the house.<br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              On 4/1/2022 6:59 AM, Mark Watson wrote:<br clear="none">
              &gt; Instant thought: BOOOIIINNNGGG<br clear="none">
              &gt;<br clear="none">
              &gt; And imagine if the bears decide they like boinging it
              over and over.  What a video that would make!<br
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              &gt;&gt; On 04/01/2022 2:50 AM Mark Miller &lt;<a
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              &gt;&gt;  <br clear="none">
              &gt;&gt; Consider letting them bend it as they wish.  Weld
              a large spring<br clear="none">
              &gt;&gt; (perhaps a garage door spring, a car suspension
              spring, something easy<br clear="none">
              &gt;&gt; to find and heavy) and let them bend it as they
              wish. When they are done<br clear="none">
              &gt;&gt; it will return to vertical undamaged.<br
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              &gt;&gt; Regards,<br clear="none">
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              &gt;&gt; Mark Miller  707-490-5834<br clear="none">
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