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To: john niolon <jniolon@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] electrical problems with truck
From: John Innis <jdinnis@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 07:49:15 -0500
Cc: shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
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This sounds like a bad/intermittent ground.  We had very similar issues on
a friends car and eventually trace it to the engine to frame ground strap.
The strap was loose and when it rattled just right there was a large
voltage drop and stuff stopped working.  But when we checked voltage,
everything seemed fine.  How is the volt meter in your truck grounded, to
the frame or to the motor?

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 11:07 PM john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:

> Took the truck (53 ford f-100) out for a drive yesterday=E2=80=A6first ti=
me since
> the Grand Nationals (I=E2=80=99ve been busy) Ran great for about 30 minut=
es with a
> couple of stops during the ride=E2=80=A6 each time it started right and s=
howed no
> problems. Electric fan and a/c running the whole time As I pulled out of
> one business and headed home the truck stumbled and died..almost like it
> was out of gas=E2=80=A6 ( had over a half a tank) I pulled into a busines=
s and
> tried to start it and all I got was a =E2=80=98click=E2=80=9D. Dash Volt =
meter read about
> 11 volts with switch on and dropped to zero when hitting the starter.
> Waited about 10 minutes and it started right up=E2=80=A6 got it home, shu=
t it off
> and same thing =E2=80=9Cclick=E2=80=9D.
>
> Battery has been on a battery tender full time since May and showed 13.7
> volts on VOM connected to the battery before the ride.
>
> Battery is 2 years old Everstart Maxx27 800 CCA =E2=80=A6
>
> Davis DUI ignition (which could have quit when battery voltage got low)
>
> All cables are new with 1/0 welding cable for starting circuit and batter=
y
> ground to frame
> engine to frame, frame to cab and frame to bed are all #4 wire to bare
> metal connection points with dialectic grease.
>
> At first glance...when running,  the volt meter on dash shows over 13
> volts so I think alternator is good
>
> did a load test with a H.F. (100 amp) load tester showed battery dropping
> to 10 volts during 10 second load... recovered to 12.
>
> Put truck up on stands and dropped battery (under cab)  checked all cable=
s
> and connections from battery to starter including solenoid and ground
> connections.
> all tight, no corrosion on terminals and  cells full.  this truck
> finished last year and everything is new.  Starter solenoid is
> a Cole-Hersee 200 amp continuous draw solenoid.
>
> Starter is new last year and 6-7 inches away and below headers so heat
> soak isn't causing the problem
>
> Set it back down and charged it for 30 minutes at 10 amps... battery
> showed 12.9 volts..  started ok and put meter on alternator
> terminals... alternator putting out 14.5 - 14.8 volts...  varies a little
> with engine speed.... so alternator is good I think.
>
>  I did a load test again.,.. idle voltage reading 12.9 volts on two
> different fluke meters... and during the load test it dropped to 12.3 the=
n
> recovered to 12.7...so I'm assuming the battery is good, it was just low
> before the first load test.
>
> here's an odd thing.. I have a 12 volt terminal on the right frame rail
> that powers the elec radiator fan, tilt hood motors and trinary switch
>
> with the a/c on, headlights on and elec radiator fan running (as much loa=
d
> as I can put on it)... the alternator o/p at 14.5 volts, the voltage at t=
he
> terminal on rail reads 11.5 volts.  The terminal is 4' from battery and f=
ed
> with #4 stranded wire.
>
> that's about all the detail I can give you... any ideas why it stalled an=
d
> quit..???   and why the terminal point only reads 11.5 versus the 14.5 at
> the alternator.
>
> I'm at the wall
>
> thanks
> john
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<div dir=3D"ltr">This sounds like a bad/intermittent ground.=C2=A0 We had v=
ery similar issues on a friends car and eventually trace it to the engine t=
o frame ground strap.=C2=A0 The strap was loose and when it rattled just ri=
ght there was a large voltage drop and stuff stopped working.=C2=A0 But whe=
n we checked voltage, everything seemed fine.=C2=A0 How is the volt meter i=
n your truck grounded, to the frame or to the motor?<br></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 5, 2021=
 at 11:07 PM john niolon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jniolon@att.net";>jniolon@att=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex">



<div class=3D"gmail-m_2315766880582515852OECFntDef">
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Took=
 the truck (53 ford f-100)=C2=A0out for a drive yesterday=E2=80=A6first tim=
e since the Grand Nationals (I=E2=80=99ve been busy) Ran great for about 30=
 minutes with a couple of stops during the ride=E2=80=A6 each time it start=
ed right and showed no problems. Electric fan and a/c running the whole tim=
e As I pulled out of one business and headed home the truck stumbled and di=
ed..almost like it was out of gas=E2=80=A6 ( had over a half a tank) I pull=
ed into a business and tried to start it and all I got was a =E2=80=98click=
=E2=80=9D. Dash Volt meter read about 11 volts with switch on and dropped t=
o zero when hitting the starter. Waited about 10 minutes and it started rig=
ht up=E2=80=A6 got it home, shut it off and same thing =E2=80=9Cclick=E2=80=
=9D.</span><br style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;font-size:13px;font-family:Ve=
rdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;wh=
ite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;font-weight:400;color=
:rgb(34,34,34);font-style:normal;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br =
style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lu=
cida,&quot;lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:norma=
l;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);t=
ext-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"font=
-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida grande&quot;,aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:n=
one;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-style:normal;displa=
y:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-inden=
t:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoratio=
n-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Battery has been on a batter=
y tender full time since May and showed 13.7 volts on VOM connected to the =
battery before the ride.</span><br style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;font-size=
:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida grande&quot;,arial,hel=
vetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;f=
ont-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-style:normal;letter-spacing:normal;=
background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:no=
rmal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration=
-color:initial"><br style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;font-size:13px;font-fami=
ly:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;font-weight:400;=
color:rgb(34,34,34);font-style:normal;letter-spacing:normal;background-colo=
r:rgb(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"=
><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;luci=
da grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:=
0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font=
-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255=
,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:n=
ormal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Battery =
is 2 years old Everstart Maxx27 800 CCA =E2=80=A6=C2=A0 </span><br style=3D=
"box-sizing:border-box;font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&qu=
ot;lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-s=
pacing:0px;text-transform:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-sty=
le:normal;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-inde=
nt:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decorati=
on-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br style=3D"box-sizing:bor=
der-box;font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida grand=
e&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text=
-transform:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-style:normal;lette=
r-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-var=
iant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initia=
l;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:=
Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;=
white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-wei=
ght:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing=
:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-liga=
tures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-de=
coration-color:initial">Davis DUI ignition (which could have quit when batt=
ery voltage got low)</span><br style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;font-size:13p=
x;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida grande&quot;,arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;font-=
weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-style:normal;letter-spacing:normal;back=
ground-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal=
;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-col=
or:initial"><br style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;font-size:13px;font-family:V=
erdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;w=
hite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;font-weight:400;colo=
r:rgb(34,34,34);font-style:normal;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rg=
b(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida g=
rande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;=
text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-sty=
le:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255=
,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:norma=
l;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">All cables a=
re new with 1/0 welding cable for starting circuit and battery ground to fr=
ame</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">engi=
ne to frame, frame to cab and frame to bed are all #4 wire to bare metal co=
nnection points with dialectic grease.</span><br style=3D"box-sizing:border=
-box;font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida grande&q=
uot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-tr=
ansform:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-style:normal;letter-s=
pacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-varian=
t-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;t=
ext-decoration-color:initial"><br style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;font-size:=
13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida grande&quot;,arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;fo=
nt-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-style:normal;letter-spacing:normal;b=
ackground-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:nor=
mal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-=
color:initial"><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,luc=
ida,&quot;lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal=
;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(=
34,34,34);font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background=
-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-=
variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:ini=
tial">At first glance...when running, =C2=A0the volt meter on dash shows ov=
er 13 volts so I think alternator is good </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></sp=
an>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida gr=
ande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;t=
ext-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-styl=
e:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,=
255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal=
;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">did a load te=
st with a H.F. (100 amp)=C2=A0load tester showed battery dropping to 10 vol=
ts during 10 second load... recovered to 12.=C2=A0</span></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida gr=
ande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;t=
ext-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-styl=
e:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,=
255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal=
;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></span></span=
>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida gr=
ande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;t=
ext-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-styl=
e:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,=
255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal=
;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></span></span=
><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;luci=
da grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:=
0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font=
-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255=
,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:n=
ormal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Put truc=
k up on stands and dropped battery (under cab)=C2=A0 checked all cables and=
 connections=C2=A0from battery to starter including solenoid and ground con=
nections.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">all =
tight, no corrosion on terminals and=C2=A0 </span><span style=3D"font-size:=
13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida grande&quot;,arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;fl=
oat:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-style:normal;display:inli=
ne;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;=
font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-styl=
e:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">cells full.=C2=A0 this truck finis=
hed last year and everything is new.=C2=A0 Starter solenoid is a=C2=A0Cole-=
Hersee 200 amp continuous draw solenoid.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></sp=
an>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Star=
ter is new last year and 6-7 inches away and below headers so heat soak isn=
&#39;t causing the problem</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></sp=
an>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Set =
it back down and charged it for 30 minutes at 10 amps... battery showed 12.=
9 volts..=C2=A0 started ok and put meter on alternator</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">term=
inals... alternator putting out 14.5 - 14.8 volts...=C2=A0 varies a=C2=A0li=
ttle with engine speed....=C2=A0so alternator is good I think.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></sp=
an>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida gr=
ande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;t=
ext-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-styl=
e:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,=
255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal=
;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span>=C2=A0<=
/span>I did a load test again.,.. idle voltage reading 12.9 volts on two di=
fferent fluke=C2=A0meters... and during the load test it dropped to 12.3 th=
en recovered to 12.7...so I&#39;m assuming the battery is good, it was just=
 low before the first load test.</span></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida gr=
ande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;t=
ext-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-styl=
e:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,=
255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal=
;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></span></span=
>=C2=A0</div></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">here=
&#39;s an odd thing.. I have a 12 volt terminal on the right frame rail tha=
t powers the elec radiator fan, tilt hood motors and trinary switch</span><=
/div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></sp=
an>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">with=
 the a/c on, headlights on and elec=C2=A0radiator fan running (as much load=
 as I can put on it)...=C2=A0the alternator o/p at 14.5 volts, the voltage =
at the terminal on rail reads 11.5 volts.=C2=A0 The terminal is 4&#39; from=
 battery and fed with #4 stranded wire.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></sp=
an>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">that=
&#39;s about all the detail I can give you... any ideas why it stalled and =
quit..???=C2=A0=C2=A0 and why the terminal point only reads 11.5 versus the=
 14.5 at the alternator.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></sp=
an>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">I&#3=
9;m at the wall</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></sp=
an>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">than=
ks</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,geneva,lucida,&quot;=
lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-transform:none;float:none;font-weight:400;color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-style:normal;display:inline;letter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255);text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">john=
</span></div></div>
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