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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Shipping an engine from UK to US
From: Bill Rabel <brabel@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 16:37:16 -0800
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I contacted a friend who has shipped cars and motorcycles back and forth =
across the Atlantic.=20
He gave me the following information about a shipper with a very good =
track record.

Gallagher Transport in Boulder, CO.
720-225 9870
Ask for Yvonne Martinez
Say that she was recommended by Wendy Wychoff (My friend=E2=80=99s =
daughter).
They will need to know if the engine has already been purchased, and =
whether tax and duty has been paid.

<https://www.gallaghertransport.com>

I respect my friend=E2=80=99s opinion on such things without =
reservation.
He said that he would send me their email address.

- Bill Rabel
  Anacortes, WA


> On Mar 3, 2021, at 7:34 AM, David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> One thing that is very important when shipping an engine freight is =
packing it properly. It needs to be bolted (at the engine mounts, =
usually) to solidly built frame, which is bolted to a top quality =
pallet, and then have a crate built around it.  The crate has to be =
strong enough to hold whatever the freight company puts on top of it. =20=

>=20
>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 07:27, Mark Watson <watsonm05@comcast.net> wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> Wow - you folks are GREAT!  Thanks for the excellent information.
>> =20
>> Mike - I'd greatly appreciate the info you offered.
>> =20
>> Thanks again - Mark
>>> On 03/01/2021 10:25 PM Mike Rambour <lists@dinospider.com> wrote:
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>>   I can strongly NOT recommend CFR Rinkens  ( cfrrinkens.com ).   =
Although they will be the cheapest by throwing your engine in a =
container with who knows what else...throwing is the correct word and =
then it will sit on docks for months in random ports.  But they will be =
cheap and it will arrive only a few months late.
>>> =20
>>>   I can find out who the body builder building my cars body is going =
to use, he has shipped bodies to the U.S. before and will be shipping =
mine in a few weeks.  He uses them because they do the palletizing and =
everything.
>>> =20
>>>> =E2=80=98Pack and Send=E2=80=99 has come back to me with ball park =
figures at today=E2=80=99s rates to get the body to you.  This is a door =
to door service with a tailor made packing case made.
>>>> =20
>>>> Sea freight approx. =C2=A32,200
>>>> Air freight approx.  =C2=A34,000
>>>=20
>>>  This is for a coachbuilt car body tub, from cowl to rear, so a =
little larger than a engine but not much and being coachbuilt (wood =
frame with flimsy aluminum skin) I bet its actually lighter than a =
engine.
>>> =20
>>>   I don't know that actual contact information but I am sure I can =
find out and at the rate he is cutting/shaping wood/fitting the skin, I =
will likely find out very soon anyway.  The price above is to California =
from Lincoln, UK.
>>> =20
>>>     mike
>>> =20
>>> On 3/1/21 1:06 PM, Mark Watson wrote:
>>>> Ok group.  I might be able to get a rebuilt engine for my 1956 =
Daimler Regency '104'.  However, it's in England and I need to somehow =
arrange for its shipping.  And possibly its packing (palletizing, I =
guess?).
>>>> =20
>>>> Gulp - the prices are mind boggling.
>>>> =20
>>>> Does anyone have any tips or guidance?
>>>> =20
>>>> Know of a reputable company that will handle an engine?
>>>> =20
>>>> It's a 3.5 litre straight six that doesn't skimp on the cast iron.  =
I don't know weight - I'm going to have to try to weigh one that I have =
that's a complete short block with head but damaged.=20
>>>> =20
>>>> If you're bored enough to look at it here's the ebay link: =
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-Daimler-3-5ltr-6-cylinder-engine/2841961658=
69 =
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-Daimler-3-5ltr-6-cylinder-engine/284196165=
869>
>>>> =20
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> =20
>>>> Mark Watson
>>>> 1956 Daimler Regency '104' long term restoration project that =
hopefully this will really kick-start work ;-)
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
contacted a friend who has shipped cars and motorcycles back and forth =
across the Atlantic.&nbsp;<div class=3D"">He gave me the following =
information about a shipper with a very good track record.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Gallagher Transport in =
Boulder, CO.</div><div class=3D"">720-225 9870</div><div class=3D"">Ask =
for Yvonne Martinez</div><div class=3D"">Say that she was recommended by =
Wendy Wychoff (My friend=E2=80=99s daughter).</div><div class=3D"">They =
will need to know if the engine has already been purchased, and whether =
tax and duty has been paid.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">&lt;<a href=3D"https://www.gallaghertransport.com"; =
class=3D"">https://www.gallaghertransport.com</a>&gt;</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I respect my friend=E2=80=99=
s opinion on such things without reservation.</div><div class=3D"">He =
said that he would send me their email address.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">- Bill Rabel</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; =
Anacortes, WA</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Mar =
3, 2021, at 7:34 AM, David Scheidt &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dmscheidt@gmail.com"; class=3D"">dmscheidt@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta=
 charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">One thing that is very important when =
shipping an engine freight is packing it properly. It needs to be bolted =
(at the engine mounts, usually) to solidly built frame, which is bolted =
to a top quality pallet, and then have a crate built around it. =
&nbsp;The crate has to be strong enough to hold whatever the freight =
company puts on top of it. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Mar 3, 2021, at =
07:27, Mark Watson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:watsonm05@comcast.net"; =
class=3D"">watsonm05@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<d=
iv style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
helvetica; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Wow - you folks are GREAT!&nbsp; =
Thanks for the excellent information.</span></div><div style=3D"font-size:=
 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, =
51);" class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Mike - I'd =
greatly appreciate the info you offered.</span></div><div =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-size: =
12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, =
51);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: =
12pt;" class=3D"">Thanks again - Mark</span></div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 03/01/2021 10:25 PM Mike =
Rambour &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lists@dinospider.com"; =
class=3D"">lists@dinospider.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">&nbsp; I can strongly NOT recommend CFR =
Rinkens&nbsp; ( <a href=3D"http://cfrrinkens.com"; =
class=3D"">cfrrinkens.com</a> ).&nbsp;&nbsp; Although they will be the =
cheapest by throwing your engine in a container with who knows what =
else...throwing is the correct word and then it will sit on docks for =
months in random ports.&nbsp; But they will be cheap and it will arrive =
only a few months late.</div><div =
class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">&nbsp; I can find out who the body builder =
building my cars body is going to use, he has shipped bodies to the U.S. =
before and will be shipping mine in a few weeks.&nbsp; He uses them =
because they do the palletizing and everything.</div><div =
class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"moz-cite-prefix"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">=E2=80=98Pack and Send=E2=80=99 has come back to me with ball =
park figures at today=E2=80=99s rates to get the body to you. &nbsp;This =
is a door to door service with a tailor made packing case =
made.</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Sea freight =
approx. =C2=A32,200</div><div class=3D"">Air freight approx. =
&nbsp;=C2=A34,000</div></blockquote><br class=3D"">&nbsp;This is for a =
coachbuilt car body tub, from cowl to rear, so a little larger than a =
engine but not much and being coachbuilt (wood frame with flimsy =
aluminum skin) I bet its actually lighter than a engine.</div><div =
class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">&nbsp; I don't know that actual contact =
information but I am sure I can find out and at the rate he is =
cutting/shaping wood/fitting the skin, I will likely find out very soon =
anyway.&nbsp; The price above is to California from Lincoln, =
UK.</div><div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mike</div><div =
class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On =
3/1/21 1:06 PM, Mark Watson wrote:</div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Ok =
group.&nbsp; I might be able to get a rebuilt engine for my 1956 Daimler =
Regency '104'.&nbsp; However, it's in England and I need to somehow =
arrange for its shipping.&nbsp; And possibly its packing (palletizing, I =
guess?).</div><div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, =
51);">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Gulp =
- the prices are mind boggling.</div><div class=3D"default-style" =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"default-style" =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Does anyone have any tips or =
guidance?</div><div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, =
51);">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Know =
of a reputable company that will handle an engine?</div><div =
class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">It's a 3.5 litre =
straight six that doesn't skimp on the cast iron.&nbsp; I don't know =
weight - I'm going to have to try to weigh one that I have that's a =
complete short block with head but damaged.&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">If you're bored =
enough to look at it here's the ebay link:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"https://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-Daimler-3-5ltr-6-cylinder-engine/28=
4196165869" =
class=3D"">https://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-Daimler-3-5ltr-6-cylinder-engine=
/284196165869</a></div><div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: =
12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, =
51);">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, =
51);">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: =
12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, =
51);">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Mark =
Watson</div><div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">1956 =
Daimler Regency '104' long term restoration project that hopefully this =
will really kick-start work ;-)</div><div class=3D"default-style" =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">&nbsp;</div><br class=3D""><pre =
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text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">Donate:<span =
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href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html"; style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
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rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: =
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text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
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