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To: "Tim ." <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] failed light fixture?
From: Bill Rabel <brabel@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 15:31:54 -0800
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Check GFI in case the fixture is on a protected circuit.=20

- Bill Rabel
  Anacortes

Since when do you have to agree with people to defend them from injustice?

- Lillian Hellman


> On Dec 6, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> wrote:
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> three of the bulbs are LED so no heat issues.=20
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> I'll grab the multi meter tomorrow and do some checking
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> thanks all
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> From: Benjamin Zwissler <bjzwissler@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:15 PM
> To: Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
> Cc: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>; Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.n=
et>
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] failed light fixture?
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> Sometimes it's just the wire nuts and replacing them or tightening will he=
lp.  Sometimes the internal crimps corrode and fail in a most bathroom. =20
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> I had someone who put four 100w bulbs in one and that's a lot of heat and c=
urrent.  Most have a 60w limit.  If the bulbs are enclosed by the fixture th=
ere may be a high temp limit switch, but I've never seen one of those in sim=
ple light bars.
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> Ben
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> On Sun, Dec 6, 2020, 5:07 PM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> wrote:
> no, incandescent fixture.=20
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> From: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:05 PM
> To: Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
> Cc: Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] failed light fixture?
> =20
> Hi Tim
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> Is it a fluorescent fixture? If so it could be the ballast. It also may be=
 the switch. I would try a meter at the switch if you have a neutral there t=
o test it.
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> best,
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> doug
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> On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 2:01 PM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> wrote=
:
> Hey all,=20
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> Is it possible for a fixture to fail? We have this four-bulb fixture over t=
he mirror in one of the bathrooms. It no longer works. Bulbs are good and no=
 breaker tripped.=20
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> thanks
> tim
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: au=
to; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Check GFI in case the fixture is o=
n a protected circuit.&nbsp;</span><div style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: a=
uto;"><br></div><div style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">- Bill Rabel<=
/div><div style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">&nbsp; Anacortes</div><b=
r><div dir=3D"ltr">






<p class=3D"p1"><span class=3D"s1">Since when do you have to agree with peop=
le to defend them from injustice?</span></p><p class=3D"p1"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 13pt;">- Lillian Hellman</span></p></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 6, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Tim . &lt;tims_datsun_stuf=
f@outlook.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
three of the bulbs are LED so no heat issues.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
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<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I'll grab the multi meter tomorrow and do some checking</div>
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olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
&nbsp;</div>
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olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
thanks&nbsp;all</div>
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r:rgb(0,0,0)">
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<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" col=
or=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Benjamin Zwissler &lt;b=
jzwissler@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim . &lt;tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> old dirtbeard &lt;dirtbeard@gmail.com&gt;; Shop Talk &lt;shop-tal=
k@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] failed light fixture?</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Sometimes it's just the wire nuts and replacing them or ti=
ghtening will help.&nbsp; Sometimes the internal crimps corrode and fail in a=
 most bathroom.&nbsp;&nbsp;
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I had someone who put four 100w bulbs in one and that's a l=
ot of heat and current.&nbsp; Most have a 60w limit.&nbsp; If the bulbs are e=
nclosed by the fixture there may be a high temp limit switch, but I've never=
 seen one of those in simple light bars.
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Ben</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 6, 2020, 5:07 PM Tim . &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com";>tims_datsun_stuff@outloo=
k.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:=
1px #ccc solid; padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
no, incandescent fixture<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri=
,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">.&nbsp;</span></div>
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r:rgb(0,0,0)">
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<div id=3D"x_m_-917542421128024479divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"C=
alibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> o=
ld dirtbeard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dirtbeard@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noreferrer">dirtbeard@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Shop Talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] failed light fixture?</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Tim
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is it a fluorescent fixture? If so it could be the ballast. It also may=
 be the switch. I would try a meter at the switch if you have a neutral ther=
e to test it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>best,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>doug</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 2:01 PM Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tims_dat=
sun_stuff@outlook.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
Hey all,&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
Is it possible for a fixture to fail? We have this four-bulb fixture over th=
e mirror in one of the bathrooms. It no longer works. Bulbs are good and no b=
reaker tripped.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
thanks</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
tim</div>
</div>
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