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Re: [Shop-talk] Retail pricing of lumber?

To: Donald H Locker <dhlocker@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Retail pricing of lumber?
From: Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org>
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 19:59:11 -0400
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I'm hoping the end of season specials on landscaping materials happens =
this year. Though I need to build quite a few planter boxes, also out of =
PT.=20

jim

ps - keep me in the loop re: your lumber purchases=20

> On Sep 9, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Donald H Locker <dhlocker@comcast.net> =
wrote:
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> My experience is that prices will rise until I make a major purchase. =
If
> I wait, the price will rise more. So wait a day or two after I buy
> something; prices will then drop dramatically and you can score good
> lumber at great prices!
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> Donald.
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> On 2020-09-09 3:15 p.m., Ian McFetridge wrote:
>> Hi Jim,
>>=20
>> Unfortunately, it's a bit like gasoline (fast to raise prices, but =
slow
>> to lower them).  =46rom my experience, the lumberyard raises prices =
when
>> they see their ordering costs increase (like the gas station raising
>> prices between refills, not just when they get a new tanker).  I was =
a
>> derivatives trader and my old colleagues are calling this a crazy
>> increase in lumber prices that they do not expect to stay this way
>> through the winter.  I would watch the price and then call around as =
you
>> see it coming down.  You can watch the lumber prices here: (look at =
the
>> front contract (Sep now). =20
>> =
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/agricultural/lumber-and-pulp/random-lengt=
h-lumber.html =20
>>=20
>> Best,
>> Ian
>>=20
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 2:47 PM Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org
wrote:
>>=20
>>    Treated decking lumber has gone up another 50% in the past few
>>    weeks. Does retail pricing follow the cost of the inventory when =
it
>>    was purchased, or is it based on the cost of inventory if it were
>>    purchased today? If I wait until January when (theoretically) =
fewer
>>    people are building decks and teh wholesale price (theoretically)
>>    comes down, will my cost be based on the January wholesale price, =
or
>>    on the September wholesale price?
>>=20
>>    I have been priced out of finishing my deck so I'm spending my =
time
>>    thinking instead of building.
>>=20
>>    jim
>>    _______________________________________________
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class=3D"">:-D&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">I'm hoping the end of season specials on landscaping =
materials happens this year. Though I need to build quite a few planter =
boxes, also out of PT.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">jim</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">ps - keep me in the loop re: your =
lumber purchases&nbsp;<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Sep 9, 2020, at 6:06 PM, =
Donald H Locker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dhlocker@comcast.net"; =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">My experience is that prices =
will rise until I make a major purchase. If</span><br =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">I wait, the price will rise =
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class=3D"">something; prices will then drop dramatically and you can =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">On 2020-09-09 3:15 p.m., Ian =
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text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">Hi Jim,<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Unfortunately, it's a bit like gasoline (fast to raise =
prices, but slow<br class=3D"">to lower them).&nbsp; =46rom my =
experience, the lumberyard raises prices when<br class=3D"">they see =
their ordering costs increase (like the gas station raising<br =
class=3D"">prices between refills, not just when they get a new =
tanker).&nbsp; I was a<br class=3D"">derivatives trader and my old =
colleagues are calling this a crazy<br class=3D"">increase in lumber =
prices that they do not expect to stay this way<br class=3D"">through =
the winter.&nbsp; I would watch the price and then call around as you<br =
class=3D"">see it coming down.&nbsp; You can watch the lumber prices =
here: (look at the<br class=3D"">front contract (Sep =
now).&nbsp;&nbsp;<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/agricultural/lumber-and-pulp/rand=
om-length-lumber.html" =
class=3D"">https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/agricultural/lumber-and-pulp/r=
andom-length-lumber.html</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Best,<br class=3D"">Ian<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Wed, =
Sep 9, 2020 at 2:47 PM Jim Franklin &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org"; =
class=3D"">jamesf@groupwbench.org</a><br class=3D"">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org"; =
class=3D"">mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Treated decking lumber has =
gone up another 50% in the past few<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;weeks.=
 Does retail pricing follow the cost of the inventory when it<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;was purchased, or is it based on the cost =
of inventory if it were<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;purchased today? =
If I wait until January when (theoretically) fewer<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;people are building decks and teh wholesale =
price (theoretically)<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;comes down, will =
my cost be based on the January wholesale price, or<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;on the September wholesale price?<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I have been priced out of =
finishing my deck so I'm spending my time<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;thinking instead of building.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;jim<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;_____________________________________________=
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