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Re: [Shop-talk] Re-adhering ceramic tiles?

To: Jimmie Mayfield <mayfield+shoptalk@sackheads.org>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Re-adhering ceramic tiles?
From: Jim Franklin via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 07:23:31 -0400
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No, there was so much that happened at once, it's impossible to tell. =
It's definitely not a load issue though; the house is a simple =
split-entry rectangle with the 1st floor on slab and the 2nd floor =
joists running between the long foundation walls and a central girder. =
And I don't remember when the tile went in compared to the work below. =
But the bathroom also has some loose tiles so I think it's a mortar or =
adhesion issue more than too much movement in the house. The tiles are =
cheap ones from Lowe's, maybe $2 each, so mabybe the underside had =
adhesion issues? I did backbutter them.=20

jim

> On Mar 29, 2020, at 10:36 PM, Jimmie Mayfield via Shop-talk =
<shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Have you addressed the underlying cause of the movement?  Were =
load-bearing structures compromised or weight limits exceeded by the =
remodel?
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> On 2020-03-29 13:40, Jim Franklin via Shop-talk wrote:
>> My house settled after a major remodel and some 12x24 ceramic tiles =
have popped up along a line. But only one side of them. If I try and pry =
them up it's clear they're on a slight hump and only one side of the =
hump let go. They only move enough to keep cracking the grout and make a =
hollow sound if I tap on them- maybe 1/16 of an inch.=20
>>=20
>> Is there a product that will get in there through the grout channels =
that will stabilize the tiles? I'd rather not go through doing it the =
right way of lifting the whole tile and laying it as a new one.=20
>>=20
>> thanks,
>> jim
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">No, =
there was so much that happened at once, it's impossible to tell. It's =
definitely not a load issue though; the house is a simple split-entry =
rectangle with the 1st floor on slab and the 2nd floor joists running =
between the long foundation walls and a central girder. And I don't =
remember when the tile went in compared to the work below. But the =
bathroom also has some loose tiles so I think it's a mortar or adhesion =
issue more than too much movement in the house. The tiles are cheap ones =
from Lowe's, maybe $2 each, so mabybe the underside had adhesion issues? =
I did backbutter them.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">jim<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Mar 29, 2020, at 10:36 PM, Jimmie =
Mayfield via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Have you addressed the underlying =
cause
      of the movement?&nbsp; Were load-bearing structures compromised or
      weight limits exceeded by the remodel?<br class=3D"">
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix"><br class=3D"">
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-03-29 13:40, Jim Franklin via
      Shop-talk wrote:<br class=3D"">
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite" =
cite=3D"mid:6F3E27B6-9C57-4F7C-A43C-C7A086019B9C@groupwbench.org" =
class=3D"">
      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">My house settled after a =
major remodel and some 12x24 ceramic tiles have popped up along a line. =
But only one side of them. If I try and pry them up it's clear they're =
on a slight hump and only one side of the hump let go. They only move =
enough to keep cracking the grout and make a hollow sound if I tap on =
them- maybe 1/16 of an inch.=20

Is there a product that will get in there through the grout channels =
that will stabilize the tiles? I'd rather not go through doing it the =
right way of lifting the whole tile and laying it as a new one.=20

thanks,
jim</pre>
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