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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Winterizing Sprinkler System
From: Jim Stone via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 08:24:22 -0500
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The Amazon adaptor arrived yesterday, so I thought I=E2=80=99d update =
this with some new information.  The adaptor was well made and the =
shut-off valve proved to be very handy; it was well worth the $20.  It =
also came with excellent instructions that mostly agreed with what was =
said here, with one exception: it said =E2=80=9Cavoid blowing compressed =
air through the PVB because doing so may damage the BVP.=E2=80=9D  I =
assume my system has a BVP in it, but can=E2=80=99t find it and just =
went ahead and blew it out from the basement as discussed.

The instructions also recommend that the compressor should be "as large =
as possible, preferably 15 gallons or larger.=E2=80=9D  I think that is =
good advice, as my little HF 8 gallon compressor was barely (I think) up =
to the task.  I initially set it to 50 lbs, the recommended pressure, =
but it was only putting out about 40 lbs during use, so I turned that up =
to get it a little higher.  Even so, the compressor would fully extend =
the spray heads for the first 15 seconds or so, then just bubble water =
out with the head retracted.  The compressor ran constantly while the =
system was on, so I gave it a rest between blowing out each zone.  I =
also blew out each zone at least three times, but there was sill some =
spray at the beginning each time.  I am going to do it one more time =
today, but know it won=E2=80=99t be completely dry.  I assume it won=E2=80=
=99t be an issue when the little bit of water remaining in the system =
freezes, but someone please let me know if I am wrong about this.  My 60 =
gal compressor is about 150 yards away from the water inlet, but I could =
make that work if necessary.

Just in time, as the cold weather arrived today, with the first below =
freezing temps expected tonight.

Cheers,
Jim

> On Nov 5, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> I need to drain and winterize my new sprinkler system and can=E2=80=99t =
imagine I need to pay someone to do that job.  While I understand the =
=E2=80=98proper=E2=80=99 way to do it is to manually open each valve, I =
was told a few years ago that it is easier to just pressurize the system =
at the drain valve and then use the manual function on the controller to =
run through each zone until no more water comes out.  (FWIW, my system =
is not that large and has 6 zones.). I was thinking about rigging =
something up that would allow me to attach my compressor and walk away, =
but found this on Amazon, which seems like a good investment that would =
pay for itself on the first use: =
https://www.amazon.com/Winterize-Sprinkler-Systems-Outdoor-Faucets/dp/B005=
5QAAIQ/ref=3Dasc_df_B0055QAAIQ/?tag=3Dhyprod-20&linkCode=3Ddf0&hvadid=3D30=
9735714375&hvpos=3D1o1&hvnetw=3Dg&hvrand=3D11131050794144962178&hvpone=3D&=
hvptwo=3D&hvqmt=3D&hvdev=3Dc&hvdvcmdl=3D&hvlocint=3D&hvlocphy=3D9004590&hv=
targid=3Dpla-570302725618&psc=3D1 =
<https://www.amazon.com/Winterize-Sprinkler-Systems-Outdoor-Faucets/dp/B00=
55QAAIQ/ref=3Dasc_df_B0055QAAIQ/?tag=3Dhyprod-20&linkCode=3Ddf0&hvadid=3D3=
09735714375&hvpos=3D1o1&hvnetw=3Dg&hvrand=3D11131050794144962178&hvpone=3D=
&hvptwo=3D&hvqmt=3D&hvdev=3Dc&hvdvcmdl=3D&hvlocint=3D&hvlocphy=3D9004590&h=
vtargid=3Dpla-570302725618&psc=3D1>. I could save around $10 and just =
buy a hose to quick disconnect fitting, but the shut off valve seems =
like a good addition.
>=20
> I have fairly large compressor, but think it will be more trouble than =
it is worth to get air to the master drain valve.  Instead, I was =
planning on just using my Harbor Freight 8 gal portable compressor.  =
(https://www.harborfreight.com/8-gal-2-hp-125-psi-oil-lube-air-compressor-=
68740.html =
<https://www.harborfreight.com/8-gal-2-hp-125-psi-oil-lube-air-compressor-=
68740.html>).   My water pressure is regulated to 60 lbs, so I figured =
something around this should be sufficient.
>=20
> Am I missing anything?  Is there any good reason to pay a professional =
to do this job?  It seems like a no-brainer to me, but I=E2=80=99ve been =
called a no-brainer before.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Jim


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">The =
Amazon adaptor arrived yesterday, so I thought I=E2=80=99d update this =
with some new information. &nbsp;The adaptor was well made and&nbsp;the =
shut-off valve proved to be very handy; it was well worth the $20. =
&nbsp;It also came with excellent instructions that mostly agreed with =
what was said here, with one exception: it said =E2=80=9Cavoid blowing =
compressed air through the PVB because doing so may damage the BVP.=E2=80=9D=
 &nbsp;I assume my system has a BVP in it, but can=E2=80=99t find it and =
just went ahead and blew it out from the basement as discussed.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The instructions also =
recommend that the compressor should be "as large as possible, =
preferably 15 gallons or larger.=E2=80=9D &nbsp;I think that is good =
advice, as my little HF 8 gallon compressor was barely (I think) up to =
the task. &nbsp;I initially set it to 50 lbs, the recommended pressure, =
but it was only putting out about 40 lbs during use, so I turned that up =
to get it a little higher. &nbsp;Even so, the compressor would fully =
extend the spray heads for the first 15 seconds or so, then just bubble =
water out with the head retracted. &nbsp;The compressor ran constantly =
while the system was on, so I gave it a rest between blowing out each =
zone. &nbsp;I also blew out each zone at least three times, but there =
was sill some spray at the beginning each time. &nbsp;I am going to do =
it one more time today, but know it won=E2=80=99t be completely dry. =
&nbsp;I assume it won=E2=80=99t be an issue when the little bit of water =
remaining in the system freezes, but someone please let me know if I am =
wrong about this. &nbsp;My 60 gal compressor is about 150 yards away =
from the water inlet, but I could make that work if necessary.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Just in time, as the =
cold weather arrived today, with the first below freezing temps expected =
tonight.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div class=3D"">Jim<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Nov =
5, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Jim Stone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">1789alpine@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I need to drain and =
winterize my new sprinkler system and can=E2=80=99t imagine I need to =
pay someone to do that job. &nbsp;While I understand the =E2=80=98proper=E2=
=80=99 way to do it is to manually open each valve, I was told a few =
years ago that it is easier to just pressurize the system at the drain =
valve and then use the manual function on the controller to run through =
each zone until no more water comes out. &nbsp;(FWIW, my system is not =
that large and has 6 zones.). I was thinking about rigging something up =
that would allow me to attach my compressor and walk away, but found =
this on Amazon, which seems like a good investment that would pay for =
itself on the first use:&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Winterize-Sprinkler-Systems-Outdoor-Faucets=
/dp/B0055QAAIQ/ref=3Dasc_df_B0055QAAIQ/?tag=3Dhyprod-20&amp;linkCode=3Ddf0=
&amp;hvadid=3D309735714375&amp;hvpos=3D1o1&amp;hvnetw=3Dg&amp;hvrand=3D111=
31050794144962178&amp;hvpone=3D&amp;hvptwo=3D&amp;hvqmt=3D&amp;hvdev=3Dc&a=
mp;hvdvcmdl=3D&amp;hvlocint=3D&amp;hvlocphy=3D9004590&amp;hvtargid=3Dpla-5=
70302725618&amp;psc=3D1" =
class=3D"">https://www.amazon.com/Winterize-Sprinkler-Systems-Outdoor-Fauc=
ets/dp/B0055QAAIQ/ref=3Dasc_df_B0055QAAIQ/?tag=3Dhyprod-20&amp;linkCode=3D=
df0&amp;hvadid=3D309735714375&amp;hvpos=3D1o1&amp;hvnetw=3Dg&amp;hvrand=3D=
11131050794144962178&amp;hvpone=3D&amp;hvptwo=3D&amp;hvqmt=3D&amp;hvdev=3D=
c&amp;hvdvcmdl=3D&amp;hvlocint=3D&amp;hvlocphy=3D9004590&amp;hvtargid=3Dpl=
a-570302725618&amp;psc=3D1</a>. I could save around $10 and just buy a =
hose to quick disconnect fitting, but the shut off valve seems like a =
good addition.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I =
have fairly large compressor, but think it will be more trouble than it =
is worth to get air to the master drain valve. &nbsp;Instead, I was =
planning on just using my Harbor Freight 8 gal portable compressor. =
&nbsp;(<a =
href=3D"https://www.harborfreight.com/8-gal-2-hp-125-psi-oil-lube-air-comp=
ressor-68740.html" =
class=3D"">https://www.harborfreight.com/8-gal-2-hp-125-psi-oil-lube-air-c=
ompressor-68740.html</a>). &nbsp; My water pressure is regulated to 60 =
lbs, so I figured something around this should be sufficient.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Am I missing anything? =
&nbsp;Is there any good reason to pay a professional to do this job? =
&nbsp;It seems like a no-brainer to me, but I=E2=80=99ve been called a =
no-brainer before.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div =
class=3D"">Jim</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
class=3D""></div></body></html>=

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