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Well, WI have something weird going on...ha
The neighbor to the east of us had them coming out at least the north side,=
the neighbor on the west on at least his east side, and I've seen them com=
e out three side of my place. too funny.
________________________________
From: Gordie Bird <mg_garage@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:53 AM
To: Tim .; Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?
Generally you will find bats entering and leaving in the east, south, or so=
utheast of the structure. Any place I saw them entering my house was prett=
y protected, like a soffit, or the end of a ridge vent that was not sealed =
properly. Droppings can be noticed on inside or outside.
I got most of my education (and the bat houses that I built) from the Bat C=
onservancy... http://www.batcon.org/, as well as the 'bat man' that I hired=
for the exclusion (after I tried unsuccessfully).
[http://www.batcon.org/images/logo-big.png]<http://www.batcon.org/>
Bat Conservation International - BCI<http://www.batcon.org/>
www.batcon.org
Austin-based group whose mission is to protect and restore bats and their h=
abitats worldwide. Includes information about education, conservation effor=
ts, articles ...
They are good to have around, just not in the attic!
Gordie
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?
The timing leans towards bats coming and leaving. If you have enough, as on=
e our neighbors did, you can definitely hear them going in and out.
"Droppings will be at the entry points"...I sure hope this isn't accurate. =
I have bats in my attic and there are droppings in many places.....places w=
here, if they were getting in and out, water would be as well.
tim
From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Gordie Bird=
<mg_garage@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:30 PM
To: Jim Franklin; Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?
Sounds like bats to me. Only need a gap the size of a dime to get in. Dr=
oppings will be at the entry points. If it is warm where you are at, you m=
ay be able to see them come or go after dusk or just before dawn.
Since they are protected, you must exclude them rather than kill them.
Took nearly 2 yrs to get them out of my attic.
Good luck,
Gordie
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 6:42 PM
Subject: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?
I've searched the Internet, but all answers seem to require that I actually=
see evidence, and I don't. It's in the ceiling between floors. No dropping=
s anywhere. I hear little feet like mice skittering across the ceiling, and=
a great big ruckus like two squirrels chasing each other, moving quickly i=
n the 3/4" space created by the strapping between joists and sheetrock.
They are loudly active mostly at night, almost always at 4:30am. Often in t=
he evenings, but sometimes during the day too. However, I haven't heard the=
m in 2 days. Sometimes this happens.
I cannot find any entry points, so I can't observe how they are getting in.=
A lot of the roof trim is rotted at the ends, but there is no evidence of =
anything in the attic, and I never hear anything in the walls.
In the past, any mice have eventually made it to the basement traps, but no=
t this time.
thanks,
jim
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<p>Well, WI have something weird going on...ha</p>
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<p>The neighbor to the east of us had them coming out at least the nor=
th side, the neighbor on the west on at least his east side, and I've =
seen them come out three side of my place. too funny. </p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:53 AM<br>
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utheast of the structure. Any place I saw them entering my house was =
pretty protected, like a soffit, or the end of a ridge vent that was not se=
aled properly. Droppings can be noticed
on inside or outside.</p>
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, sans-serif;">
I got most of my education (and the bat houses that I built) from the Bat C=
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<a href=3D"http://www.batcon.org/"; style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: u=
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They are good to have around, just not in the attic!</p>
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Gordie</p>
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<b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"; style=3D"colo=
r: blue; text-decoration: underline;">Tim .</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:11 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue=
; text-decoration: underline;">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?</p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",se=
rif"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri"=
;,sans-serif; color:black">The timing leans towards bats coming and leaving=
. If you have enough, as one our neighbors did, you can definitely hear the=
m going in and out. </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri"=
;,sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri"=
;,sans-serif; color:black">"</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; fo=
nt-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Droppings will be at=
the entry points"...I sure hope this isn't accurate. I have bats
in my attic and there are droppings in many places.....places where, if th=
ey were getting in and out, water would be as well. </span><span =
style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"></span></=
p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri"=
;,sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">tim</span><span style=3D"font-=
family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
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, sans-serif; background: white;">
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<b><span style=3D"color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"color:black">=
Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Gordie Bir=
d <mg_garage@comcast.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jim Franklin; Shop-talk@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?</span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt; color:black">
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<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Sounds like bats to me. =
Only need a gap the size of a dime to get in. Droppings will be=
at the entry points. If it is warm where you are at, you may
be able to see them come or go after dusk or just before dawn. </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Since they are protected, you =
must exclude them rather than kill them.</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Took nearly 2 yrs to get them =
out of my attic.
</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Good luck,</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Gordie</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; co=
lor:black"></span></p>
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<p style=3D"background:white"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-fami=
ly:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From:
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri"=
,sans-serif; color:black"><a href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org"; style=
=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">Jim Franklin</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, April 5, 2016 6:42 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue=
; text-decoration: underline;">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?</span></p>
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<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; co=
lor:black"></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">I've searched the Internet, bu=
t all answers seem to require that I actually see evidence, and I don't. It=
's in the ceiling between floors. No droppings
anywhere. I hear little feet like mice skittering across the ceiling, and =
a great big ruckus like two squirrels chasing each other, moving quickly in=
the 3/4" space created by the strapping between joists and sheetrock.
</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">They are loudly active mostly =
at night, almost always at 4:30am. Often in the evenings, but sometimes dur=
ing the day too. However, I haven't heard them
in 2 days. Sometimes this happens.</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">I cannot find any entry points=
, so I can't observe how they are getting in. A lot of the roof trim is rot=
ted at the ends, but there is no evidence of anything
in the attic, and I never hear anything in the walls. </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">In the past, any mice have eve=
ntually made it to the basement traps, but not this time.
</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
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<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
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