I stand corrected. I helped a friend install one of their superide kits on his
40 Chevy sedan about three years ago. At that time it used the same crossmember
as their other kits. It would appear however that Heidts has since changed
their design. This being the case, I wouldn't purchase a superide kit and
neither would I recommend it to anyone else. Apparently Heidts has fallen pray
to the "keep up with the Jones's" mentality. There seem to be a lot of people
who buy these systems (Heidts Superide, Jim Meyer's and others) that are
willing to trust these guy's home grown geometry, I'm just not one of them.
Grouchy? Who's grouchy? We're just having a friendly debate. When it all
comes down to it we're pretty much on the same side anyway.
Bill Whittaker
'53 3100 Hemi
Built Like A Rock
With Mopar Stock
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Simmons [mailto:tasimmons@cbnn.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 10:44 PM
To: Whittaker Bill G Civ ASC/SMY; 'Old Trucks'
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] RE: IFS,
One more time-- and I won't ever mention IFS again!!! LOL. Heidts own
literature states that the Superide crossmember is one piece and is
completely different from their Mustang ll crossmember.It also states that
every piece was designed specifically by Heidts for the Superide and that it
is your assurance of the right geometry. From their catalog "All new
Superide-NOT a Mustang conversion kit"
Now they also have a Superide ll kit that uses Mustang ll dropped spindles.
But it also says that it uses a geometry SIMILAR to Mustang ll.
I hope that I have not sounded grouchy in my replies. I really like this
list because everyone is so well mannered and polite, and I didn't intend
to start anything when I suggested a different vendor. And I apologize to
anyone that is tired of reading about this subject.
Don Simmons
----- Original Message -----
From: "Whittaker Bill G Civ ASC/SMY" <Bill.Whittaker@wpafb.af.mil>
To: "'Old Trucks'" <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 4:57 AM
Subject: FW: [oletrucks] RE: IFS, but not to open any can or worms again
> Heidts Superide suspension uses Ford geometry. The only difference is
that the control arms are tubular and this design allows them to eliminate
the strut rods. The crossmember is the exact same crossmember that is
supplied with their economy Mustang II kits. Therefore the geometry is the
same. Heidts knows enough not to mess with a proven system.
>
> The "bolt on" suspension on your '62 is held on by 7 bolts per side...
That's at least three per side more than most Mustang II bolt on kits... I
wonder why GM would have used so many more bolts... could it be because it's
safer? Hmmmmmm.
>
> Bill Whittaker
> '53 3100 Hemi
> Built Like A Rock
> With Mopar Stock
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Simmons [mailto:tasimmons@cbnn.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 8:37 PM
> To: Whittaker Bill G Civ ASC/SMY; 'Old Trucks'
> Subject: Re: [oletrucks] RE: IFS, but not to open any can or worms again
>
>
> Allright, I have to reply to this. If you look at Heidts "Superide"
> suspension,
> #1. It is claimed to be better than their Mustang ll kit!
> #2. It uses no Mustang ll parts.
> #3. It doesn't say where the geometry for this crossmember comes from or
how
> they came up with the geometry for this crossmember.
> Now----- does this mean it is inferior? Oh, and by the way even though I
> would probably go with a weld on crossmember, my stock suspension on my
1962
> Chevy 1/2 ton is only bolted on with 7 bolts on each side. And Chevy
> designed it to be used as a truck!!!!! Seems to have been good enough for
> them. HMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!
>
> Don Simmons
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Whittaker Bill G Civ ASC/SMY" <Bill.Whittaker@wpafb.af.mil>
> To: "'Old Trucks'" <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:58 AM
> Subject: [oletrucks] RE: IFS, but not to open any can or worms again
>
>
> > While you're checking him out... Ask him who's geometry he uses. Just
> because he chooses to manufacture IFS systems with GM parts doesn't mean
he
> uses GM geometry just like a lot of guys making Mustang II systems don't
> completely use Ford's geometry. (No, I'm not going to disguise the word.)
> There's nothing on Jim Meyer's web site that tells you anything about his
> geometry except to say it's "correct". Also he has at least one kit that
> has an adjustment to eliminate bump steer. It's always been my experience
> that if the suspension geometry was correct in the first place this isn't
a
> problem. This adjustment could be necessary for just one application, I
> don't know. But it is something to take into consideration when evaluating
> suppliers, especially ones who's engineering your going to trust your life
> to.
> >
> > I'll say this again... I'm not picking on Jim Meyer's products perse'...
> what I am saying is thoroughly investigate whatever system you're
interested
> in and make your own decision. There's a bunch of manufacturers out there
> making similar claims and many of them are short on design and long on
> pretty words and pictures. If Jim Meyers makes a system that looks good
to
> you, and your satisfied with his engineering and geometry, then go for it.
> >
> > Bill Whittaker
> > '53 3100 Hemi
> > Built Like A Rock
> > With Mopar Stock
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian _ [mailto:pkupman57@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 1:24 AM
> > To: oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > Subject: [oletrucks] IFS, but not to open any can or worms again
> >
> >
> > well, today i was looking though my magazines for some things i need to
> > order to get the body of my jeep done, and while i was looking through
my
> > december 1999 issue of Petersons Custom Classic Trucks, i found in the
> back,
> > right under a Classic Tube ad, a ad for Jim Meyer raceing products. it
> would
> > be a 4" x 4.5" ad with the address and phone number. apparently hes got
12
> > different kinds of set ups along with air ride suspension things for
> them,..
> > the "perfect fit for your truck" that someone mentioned earlier
apparently
> > means he's got cross members and other componets that are direct
> > replacements for TF trucks. which means hes atleast dont SOME measureing
> and
> > figureing with thos frames to be able to manufacture and sell components
> for
> > these trucks,.... personally, im going to check him out,. ive always
> wanted
> > to keep my stock I-beam, but a kit that uses all chevy front end
parts,...
> > hummmmm. sure as hell beats ford, oh excuse me, f**d, parts
> > just my 2 cents.
> > Brian M
> > Atwater, CA
> > '57 Chevy 3200
> > '89 Chevy Silverado
> > '46 Willys CJ-2A
> > '00 Dodge Neon
> >
> > wish list
> > TF 1.5--2 ton flat bed
> >
> >
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