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Re: [oletrucks] VIN plate question

To: "Kevin Lake" <lakek@oit.edu>, <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] VIN plate question
From: "Phoenix I&E" <rogerz@planetwide.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:52:03 -0800
Yea,  the Texas DPS gets real serious about VIN tags and titles.  If you
start monkeying with them you can loose your vehicle and got to jail in a
hartbeat.



BelAir Bob
57 1/2 ton Panel custom
57 Belair Sport Coupe restored to factory specs.

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> From: Kevin Lake <lakek@oit.edu>
> To: BelAir Bob <rogerz@planetwide.com>; varanus@mail.phoenix.net;
oletrucks@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [oletrucks] VIN plate question
> Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 7:49 AM
> 
> Ouch!  That could hurt.  Texas is serious about their vehicle titles
aren't
> they.  I spent two years in England and they had a place on the title
where
> you could change bodies, frames, etc.  You could buy a 1960 Austin Mini
> Panel truck and remove the data plate and place it on a good car, say an
84
> Austin Mini Panel.  As long as you documented the changes with the
British
> Govt. it was perfectly legal.  A friend of mine had a 1985 Mini that was
> registered as 1968 Mini Cooper.  I have heard that they have gotten more
> strict in the last few years, but it was fun while it lasted.  Good luck
> with the paper chase.
> 
> Kevin Lake 56 napco/burb GMC  
> 
> ----------
> > From: BelAir Bob <rogerz@planetwide.com>
> > To: varanus@mail.phoenix.net; oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] VIN plate question
> > Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 8:50 AM
> > 
> > Eric,
> > 
> > Your missing VIN tag could get you in a world of trouble here in Texas.

> > Any law inforcement officer can confiscate your truck on the spot for
not
> > having a factory installed VIN tag.  A good friend of mine is a Texas
DPS
> > Motor Vehicle Theft Service Investgator.  He was looking at my Panel a
> few
> > months ago and noticed that the VIN tag was attached with pop rivets. 
He
> > asked me if I had done that and if the VIN number stamped in the frame
> > matched the tag.  They did not.  He told me to check my title and see
> which
> > number it matched.  I told him that I had not changed the VIN tag, that
> it
> > was that way when I bought it.  He told me to check it out and get back
> to
> > him.  He said he would have to "run" the frame munber if it didn't
match
> > the title and hopefully it wouldn't come up stolen.  Scary thought.  He
> > said if the tile did match the frame he would help me get a state
> assigned
> > VIN tag.  He said I would need to fill out a Form 68A, with his
> assistance,
> > and he would process it.  He said the only way to get the assigned VIN
> tag
> > was to go through a DPS Motor Vehicle Theft Service  Investigator
because
> > they have to verify all of the numbers and they have to process the
form.
> 
> > I , like you, started to loose sleep over my title problem.   
> > 
> > When I checked my title, I found it matched the body, not the frame. 
> This
> > made me a little sick.  When I bought my Panel several years ago I also
> > bought a 55-2 3600 that came with a big wad of paperwork.  The previous
> > owner was trying to get a title for the Panel so he switched the VIN
tags
> > between the two trucks.  In the wad of paper work I found a VIN tag
that
> > matches my frame and a bill of sale from the Weatherford Sheriff's
> office. 
> > I showed all of this to my DPS buddy and he suggested that I call the
> > Weatherford Sheriff's office and see if they would reissue the bill of
> sale
> > in my name.  They did.  Every thing is cool now, my buddy is processing
> my
> > Form 68A and I'm not loosing any sleep.  
> > 
> > As for your question about a replacement original style VIN tag, I've
> never
> > seen one and if you found one, you would still need the state assigned
> tag
> > as well.
> > 
> > Happy Hunting
> > BelAir Bob
> > 57 1/2 ton Panel custom
> > 57 Belair Sport Coupe restored to factory specs.
> > 
> > ----------
> > > From: varanus@mail.phoenix.net
> > > To: oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: [oletrucks] VIN plate question
> > > Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 4:14 PM
> > > 
> > > Hi again: my vin plate is missing.  This sometimes makes it hard to 
> > > get inspection as the inspectors don't know that vin numbers 
> > > were same as engine numbers prior to 1958.  I would like to put a vin

> > > plate back where it should be.  Are there any options such as 
> > > having the state dmv approve a new vin plate?  They will give me a 
> > > vin sticker but I also want the original style plate.  It keeps me 
> > > awake nights knowing it is not there.  
> > > 
> > > Maybe I am wrong but I thought that for a restoration, there was a 
> > > way to do this.  
> > > Maybe not.
> > > Thanks
> > > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
1959
> > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
> oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959

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