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To: Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase@gmail.com>, dave <dave@ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga radiator
From: Charley Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 10:09:03 -0500
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Jeff is still answering the Emails.  I bought a fuel pump from him last 
month.  Yes, he's a Moss reseller.

CR

On 5/3/2019 8:28 AM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote:
> I think Lbcarco is a Moss reseller, so most of their stuff is a Moss 
> product. They sell â??em cheaper.
>
> I wonder if Jeff Zorn is still involved with them. Seems to me he 
> retired and he and Jan spend a lot of time cruising these days....
>
> Dan D
> Central NJ USA
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:24 PM dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net 
>
>     I was quoted upwards of $400 to recore.  Lbcarco has new ones for
>     under $300, and there is a guy on ebay out of Knoxville selling
>     them for just over $200. Steel/copper of course.
>
>     Since my other LBCâ??s also have steel/copper radiators, and
>     electric fans, and I do just fine here in Dallas summers, Iâ??m
>     thinking thatâ??s the way to go.  Iâ??ll take lbcarco products any
>     day.  Their stuff is great.  Iâ??m going to hook up the electric fan
>     to the F switch (and a relay).  Seems appropriate to me!
>
>     *From:*Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net
>     Robinson via Mgs
>     *Sent:* Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:11 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] mga radiator
>
>     Hello Max,
>
>     I hoped you used the special heat transferring paint.   There used
>     to be one that has something like small chaff in it which was
>     meant to improve heat transfer.
>
>     Barrie from Barrie
>
>     On 5/2/2019 2:01 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>
>         I was recently quoted $450 to recore a Mk.1 MGB radiator. So
>         it has become rather costly. But if you are a stickler for the
>         original appearance, and want to insure a perfect fit, I think
>         that is how you would want to go.
>
>         That said, I wound up with the Moss Motors premium aluminum
>         radiator, and it fit fine, and seems to work great. I painted
>         it black so it didnâ??t stand out as a foreign object, and canâ??t
>         be seen through the grill (this really bugs me when I see it
>         on other cars).
>
>         --
>
>         Max Heim
>
>         '66 MGB
>
>             On May 2, 2019, at 6:53 AM, David Breneman via Mgs
>
>             With what I paid, $100 was a rounding error (and he ended
>             up doing
>
>             a lot of work for free, because it was a fixed-price job
>             and he's a
>
>             perfectionist). But it's not the first time I'd heard of
>             this problem
>
>             with new radiators.  A lot of people complain about
>             cooling issues
>
>             with their MGAs.  I've never had a problem, even with
>             weather in
>
>             the 80s.  And if it's hotter than that, I overheat long
>             before the
>
>             car would.
>
>             David Breneman david_breneman@yahoo.com
>
>             On Thursday, May 2, 2019, 12:41:14 AM PDT, PaulHunt73
>             <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com
>
>             Hmmm. With my cynical hat on I'd say that could be a way
>             of spending $400
>
>             rather than $300.
>
>             PaulH.
>
>             ----- Original Message -----
>
>             > When I got my MGA restored, the mechanic recommended
>             rebuilding the
>
>             > original radiator rather then buying a replacement,
>             because the new ones
>
>             > have fewer "tubes" (whatever the actual term is in
>             radiator-speak) in them
>
>             > than the originals, so there is less surface area for
>             cooling.
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    Jeff is still answering the Emails.  I bought a fuel pump from him
    last month.  Yes, he's a Moss reseller.<br>
    <br>
    CR<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/3/2019 8:28 AM, Dan DiBiase via
      Mgs wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="auto">I think Lbcarco is a Moss reseller, so most of
          their stuff is a Moss product. They sell â??em cheaper.</div>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">I wonder if Jeff Zorn is still involved with them.
        Seems to me he retired and he and Jan spend a lot of time
        cruising these days....</div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">Dan D</div>
      <div dir="auto">Central NJ USA</div>
      <div><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:24
            PM dave via Mgs &lt;<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";
              moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I
                    was quoted upwards of $400 to recore.  Lbcarco has
                    new ones for under $300, and there is a guy on ebay
                    out of Knoxville selling them for just over $200. 
                    Steel/copper of course.  </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="color:windowtext"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Since
                    my other LBCâ??s also have steel/copper radiators, and
                    electric fans, and I do just fine here in Dallas
                    summers, Iâ??m thinking thatâ??s the way to go.  Iâ??ll
                    take lbcarco products any day.  Their stuff is
                    great.  Iâ??m going to hook up the electric fan to the
                    F switch (and a relay).  Seems appropriate to 
me!</span></p>
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style="color:windowtext"> </span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                          style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                        style="color:windowtext"> Mgs &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";
                          target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Barrie Robinson via Mgs<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:11 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";
                          target="_blank" 
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                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] mga radiator</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Hello
                    Max,<br>
                    <br>
                    I hoped you used the special heat transferring
                    paint.   There used to be one that has something
                    like small chaff in it which was meant to improve
                    heat transfer.<br>
                    <br>
                    Barrie from Barrie</span></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">On 5/2/2019 2:01 PM, Max Heim via
                    Mgs wrote:</p>
                </div>
                <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                  <p class="MsoNormal">I was recently quoted $450 to
                    recore a Mk.1 MGB radiator. So it has become rather
                    costly. But if you are a stickler for the original
                    appearance, and want to insure a perfect fit, I
                    think that is how you would want to go. </p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">That said, I wound up with the
                      Moss Motors premium aluminum radiator, and it fit
                      fine, and seems to work great. I painted it black
                      so it didnâ??t stand out as a foreign object, and
                      canâ??t be seen through the grill (this really bugs
                      me when I see it on other cars).</p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
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                                style="font-size:10.0pt">--</span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10.0pt">Max Heim</span></p>
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                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10.0pt">'66 MGB</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">On May 2, 2019, at 6:53
                            AM, David Breneman via Mgs &lt;<a
                              href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";
                              target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                            wrote:</p>
                        </div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">With
                                          what I paid, $100 was a
                                          rounding error (and he ended
                                          up doing</span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">a
                                          lot of work for free, because
                                          it was a fixed-price job and
                                          he's a</span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">perfectionist). 
                                          But it's not the first time
                                          I'd heard of this problem</span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">with
                                          new radiators.  A lot of
                                          people complain about cooling
                                          issues </span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">with
                                          their MGAs.  I've never had a
                                          problem, even with weather in
                                        </span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">the
                                          80s.  And if it's hotter than
                                          that, I overheat long before
                                          the</span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">car
                                          would.</span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">David
                                      Breneman <a
                                        href="mailto:david_breneman@yahoo.com";
                                        target="_blank"
                                        
moz-do-not-send="true">david_breneman@yahoo.com</a></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">On
                                      Thursday, May 2, 2019, 12:41:14 AM
                                      PDT, PaulHunt73 &lt;<a
                                        href="mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com";
                                        target="_blank"
                                        
moz-do-not-send="true">paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>&gt;
                                      wrote: </span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"> </span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">Hmmm. 
                                        With my cynical hat on I'd say
                                        that could be a way of spending
                                        $400 </span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">rather
                                        than $300.</span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"> </span></p>
                                  </div>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">PaulH.</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"> </span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">-----
                                        Original Message ----- </span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;
                                        When I got my MGA restored, the
                                        mechanic recommended rebuilding
                                        the</span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;
                                        original radiator rather then
                                        buying a replacement, because
                                        the new ones</span></p>
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                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;
                                        have fewer "tubes" (whatever the
                                        actual term is in
                                        radiator-speak) in them</span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;
                                        than the originals, so there is
                                        less surface area for cooling. 
</span></p>
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