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Re: [Mgs] Clutch problems.

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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Clutch problems.
From: Jim Juhas <james.f.juhas@snet.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:22:41 -0500
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I don't know if your car uses a roller bearing or carbon bearing, nor 
did you say that this had been operating correctly and that this is now 
a failure.

If this is a recent failure, I would suspect the throwout bearing.  I 
had a carbon-type one fail abruptly, caused grumbling sounds, and then 
the clutch could not be disengaged.  The carbon had disintegrated and 
fell out of the shell.  The steel/iron remainder of the bearing against 
the pressure plate accounted for the noises.

I have had roller-bearing throwout bearings fail on 60's-era Chevelles, 
and they would make a lot of noise before their failure. The carbon-type 
failure was abrupt, a snap, no disengagement, and noise when the pedal 
was depressed.

On 11/19/2013 12:56 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
> Have a rubber bumper B with clutch problems.  Hydraulics seem fine, 
> pedal feels okay, not
> great, the slave moves the lever enough that it should work.  But with 
> the engine running
> when you push in the clutch pedal there is an odd sort of grumbling 
> noise from the clutch,
> and it is obviously not working.
>
> One possibilty I thought of after I left my friend's shop was involves 
> the throwout bearing.
> I didn't install this clutch, so I don't know if the retaining clips 
> that hold the bearing to
> the fork were new, used or properly installed.  Have any of you had 
> one of these clips
> fail, allowing the bearing to fall out of the yoke?  I'm wondering if 
> that is a possibility.
>
> Another possibility is the person who did the job put the disk in 
> backwards.  But whatever
> the problem, the gearbox has to be pulled.  I might get a bit dirty 
> down at Bailey's tomorrow.
>
> mjb.
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