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RE: OT - US Govt. squandering our $$$

To: "'wizardz'" <wizardz@maxinter.net>,
Subject: RE: OT - US Govt. squandering our $$$
From: "greg54321@jps.net" <greg54321@jps.net>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:40:05 -0800
Paul,
What have you been smoking?.....hopefully not for medicinal purposes!!!!!

#1: The IRS is actually giving you a choice to file a return or a STATEMENT."

Are you suggesting that we DON'T have to pay federal taxes if we just file a 
STATEMENT?


#2: if ... you want to contribute to the military, the fire department, the 
police
department, the school system, the roads, you should know this.   Monies
received by the IRS do not go to any of those programs.

You're only partly right.  Fire departments, police departments and school 
systems are
primarily funded by LOCAL taxes (i.e., property tax and sales tax).  Roads are 
typically 
funded with a combination of federal and local tax dollars.  The military is 
federally funded.


        #3: The IRS is an offshore trust #62 in Puerto Rico.

O...K.....  Last I heard, the IRS was a Federal Agency chartered with the 
responsibility for collecting
Taxes owed the federal government.  A trust is a fiduciary relationship in 
which one person (the
Trustee) holds the title to property for the benefit of another (the 
beneficiary).  A trust has no employees,
Only trustees.   I know the IRS has employees - fail to pay your federal income 
taxes for a few years and
And you will find out.  By the way, next time you put quotation marks around 
paragraph, attribute it to a source 
(i.e., leaflet from Fringe Group X).

Paul, next time you drive OBie,  enjoy the beautiful roads and the least 
expensive gasoline in the industrialized
World...courtesy of Uncle Sam.  
 

Greg Tanner 
'57 TR3 TS17392L


 
-----Original Message-----
From:   wizardz [SMTP:wizardz@maxinter.net]
Sent:   Thursday, January 06, 2000 12:05 PM
To:     British Sportscar Center; mgs@autox.team.net
Subject:        Re: OT - US Govt. squandering our $$$ 

Well Lawie...
I could easily be sued for this...
but for Plagiarism sake I'm announcing that up front..

"....obtain a copy of your 1998 1040 tax booklet.  
Go to page 51, in paragraph 3.  You'll see the privacy act. 
The IRS is very clear, and if you would like to be in 
compliance, just read what it says, very, very closely.  
It says you must file a return, or a STATEMENT.  
The IRS is actually giving you a choice to file a return 
or a STATEMENT."

This next paragraph (..different document) is an excerpt 
from a document...PROVEN to be true.
The background can be checked in any universities law library...
It has not been challenged in 14 years in any US court.
The 'STATEMENT' as defined by the IRS is real and 
undeniably your right as a US citizen.

this is in regards to you paying Federal income tax....

"......In case you're wondering, and if you love your country and
you are a tax payer, and you want to contribute to the military,
the fire department, the police department, the school system,
the roads, you should know this.   Monies received by the IRS 
do not go to any of those programs.  The IRS is an offshore
trust #62 in Puerto Rico.  The money simply goes offshore 
to pay a debt owed by the federal government.  What taxes 
do pay for the programs mentioned?  Well, it comes from the 
gasoline tax, sales tax, excise tax, property tax, and many other 
forms of tax.  That is the exciting news.  So, for those who love 
their country, that is fine, just remember you are contributing to 
these programs by the other taxes y......"

..now who is even more confused by the use of you tax dollar.?


Paul Tegler
OBie - '73 BGT - Daily Driver  
http://www.teglerizer.com/mgstuff/ob_description.htm
Rat -'80 Spitfire  - fledgling recently left the nest  
http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphstuff/spit80.htm
Punkin' - '78 Spitfire - in Superb Shape! 
http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphstuff/spit78.htm
Lil' Greenee - '73 RWA Midget - finally home  
http://www.teglerizer.com/midgetstuff/index.html
email: wizardz@toad.net        http://www.teglerizer.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: British Sportscar Center <mgpa@calweb.com>
To: mgs@autox.team.net <mgs@autox.team.net>
Cc: british-cars-pre-war@autox.team.net <british-cars-pre-war@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, January 06, 2000 1:26 PM
Subject: OT - US Govt. squandering our $$$


I realise this is not LBC-related (though I'd have more money to spend on my
collection if I didn't have to pay such high taxes), but I choose this forum
to voice my opinion in the hope that others will agree and perhaps steer me
(or all of us) into ways to communicate our dissatisfaction to the
decision-makers.

So the US Govt. is attempting to broker a peace deal between Israel and
Syria? Fine, I'm all in favor of anything that prevents people killing each
other. But, the news reports say, the successful accomplishment of a deal
will probably result in the US Govt. (that is, you and I, the taxpayers)
paying 17 Billion Dollars to Israel to enable them to build homes for the
people they have to move from the Golan Heights to make Syria happy.

Seventeen Billion Dollars? If the Israelis agree that they need to give up
that territory, isn't that an admission that they shouldn't have been there
in the first place? We, the US citizens, should have to pay Seventeen
Billion Dollars to correct their mistake? Isn't there, perhaps, a homeless
problem in this country that could be somewhat lessened by the application
of Seventeen Billion Dollars? Don't our homeless deserve somewhere to live?
I find this belief by our elected officials that they can just commit such
huge sums to foreign countries when we have many prior needs here at home,
to be totally irresponsible.

Am I alone in this? Can we all write or e-mail someone to put this point
across? Anyone got any ideas how we can fight this?

And if you think I should not use this Bulletin Board to discuss politics,
yeah, OK, I stand rebuked. Don't bother to write and tell me. I figure I
give enough free LBC advice from time to time on this Board that I'm allowed
a rant once in a while.....................

Lawrie Alexander
British Sportscar Center






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