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RE: was 4.2 L locked up, NOW, Move over 5.0, looking for a Viper.

To: Jim Stuart <jimbb88@erols.com>, MGV8 list <mgb-v8@Autox.Team.Net>, Woody Cooper <SMCTR8@aol.com>, Dave Michel <michel@anvil.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: RE: was 4.2 L locked up, NOW, Move over 5.0, looking for a Viper.
From: Larry Hoy <larryhoy@cwix.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 1980 12:38:32 -0700
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Reply-to: Larry Hoy <larryhoy@cwix.com>
Sender: owner-mgb-v8@Autox.Team.Net
So Jim, did you write this to gloat, or to motivate me?

Sounds like fun.  I almost wish my holiday visit to Palm Springs was over so I
could start working on my B.

Larry Hoy


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-mgb-v8@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-mgb-v8@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Jim Stuart
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 1998 7:18 PM
> To: MGV8 list; Woody Cooper; Dave Michel
> Subject: was 4.2 L locked up, NOW, Move over 5.0, looking for a Viper.
>
>
>
> First of all, I want to thank all who responded with advice & sympathy.
> I received a number of good solutions, some, probably better than the
> route I chose. Sorry I worried Woody Cooper, who sold me the engine. He
> was very concerned.
>
> Some of the factors that influenced my decision were, engine in the car,
> all bolted up; tranny in the car, bolted & unbolted, but held in place
> by the cross member; I was getting tired of fooling with the problem;
> unwillingness to hunt up a good machine shop & wait on them. And
> finally, I wanted a solution I could perform.
>
> As most of you know, the engine turned about 20` at initial start-up,
> then locked. The problem I finally discovered, was the longer crank on
> the Rover engine bottomed out on the splines of my T-5 tranny. Something
> needed shortening, or a spacer must be used.
>
> I think Jack Emery's suggestion of machining the tranny input shaft was
> the best idea, had I discovered the problem sooner, this was what I
> would have done. For reasons stated above, I decided to use a spacer. My
> choices were to space at the bell housing to tranny, or engine to bell
> housing. I needed a minimum of 1/8" additional space, & 1/4" would put
> things closer to factory specs.
>
> The bell housing to tranny spacer would move the tranny out of the
> supporting aperture (big round hole) in the bell housing, & my skills &
> equipment were not enough to ensure the spacer would be accurate enough
> to properly locate the trans. Thus, I went about making a spacer for the
> engine to bell housing out of 1/4" aluminum. I had a spare bell housing
> for a pattern, a drill press, & my trusty router. One of the nice things
> about aluminum is that wood working tools work quite well to cut &
> shape. I made the spacer in 2 pieces to minimize the amount of waste.
> The original locating dowels were long enough to properly locate the
> bell housing through the spacer, but longer ones would have been no
> problem.
>
> All bolted up, final hose & wire check, oil pump was primed, double
> checked the timing, thanks to my good friend Dave, & turn the key.
>
> Hit on the first lick, I took the rpm's immediately to 2000, per the cam
> mfg.'s instructions, ran it for a sweet beautiful, wonderful sounding 20
> min, also per cam mfg.. Dave adjusted the idle so I could get out of the
> car, & we both looked for any problems, found none.
>
> Engine did finally begin to run hot. Even a 16" electric fan is not
> enough to keep up with a tight engine running indoors at 2100 rpms. It
> did take over 20 min to get to 210`. Let everything cool down while I
> reworked the shift boot. There are a couple of areas where 1/4" makes a
> big difference. Took the car off jack stands for the first time in 2
> months, & went for a ride.
>
> AWESOME! 5.0's will be no challenge, I need a Viper or maybe a new 'Vet
> to embarrass.
>
> Even gentle driving was a thrill. Can't wait to get some miles on it,
> change the oil, & see what its like when it gets angry.
>
> Hope all of you had as good a Christmas as I did.
>
> Jim
> ( anyone wanting spacer details, let me know.)
>


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