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Re: Welding skills

To: The Butters Family <bbutters@dmi.net>, Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>,
Subject: Re: Welding skills
From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 06:29:55 -0800 (PST)
I still have a buzz box that I bought in 71, and
a torch that i bought in 74.  I don't have a mig
or tig.  I have used both, and they sure are easy
to use, and they make nice looking welds, but
everything I do is done the old way - - cause
that's all I have. 

Dick J


--- The Butters Family <bbutters@dmi.net> wrote:
>      Well just my two cents worth,  I work
> around and with farm machinery,
> takes a beating as you can well imagine. For
> years I have been fixing
> pretty welds that break, no doubt made with
> TIGS and Migs. My feeling is
> that it is all to easy to make nice looking
> welds with these things that are
> not strong, little actual penetration into the
> base structure.  I'm sure
> they can  be structurally sound if properly
> done, I just don't trust the
> welds on anything structural. So You guessed it
> my frame and roll cage is
> don with ugly old stick welding and I feel a
> ton safer with it. Am I alone
> in this ? Kvach
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
> To: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; John Linville
> <bellytk@nh.ultranet.com>;
> <FastmetalBDF@aol.com>; <ardunbill@webtv.net>;
> <DaCudaKid@aol.com>;
> <bigsid@webtv.net>; <bk185@lafn.org>;
> <BJGAYLE@aol.com>; <LITNMAN@aol.com>;
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:28 AM
> Subject: Welding skills
> 
> 
> > We kinda brought up welding skills last
> night.... I was sitting there
> > looking at something I tig welded the other
> day...
> >
> > I was kinda amazed I had welded it... very
> nice looking weld.... but it
> was
> > the last of many on the same thing.... shoot
> give anyone of us enough
> > Practice and we can learn to do anything....
> >
> > Joe Timney had said something about only
> using a Tig welder and not even
> > owning a Wire feed box..... In my case I
> loaned my Mig to the Rock
> business
> > and just haven't got around to taking it
> home.... so everything I have
> > welded lately has been Tig work...  I am
> beginning to see why Joe likes
> > this thing so much....
> >
> > on the other side of the fence.... I saw a
> new LSR car the other night
> that
> > was put together with a Stick welder.... man
> there was nothing pretty
> about
> > that.... It was welded.. and the welds were
> GOOD.... but wow it was ugly.
> >
> > Just a side light on a Boring day..... K
> > ----------
> > > From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > > To: John Linville
> <bellytk@nh.ultranet.com>;
> FastmetalBDF@aol.com;
> > ardunbill@webtv.net; DaCudaKid@aol.com;
> bigsid@webtv.net; bk185@lafn.org;
> > BJGAYLE@aol.com; LITNMAN@aol.com;
> land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: Arduns Big and Little
> > > Date: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:17 AM
> > >
> > > I got to see a tin sided V-8 60 when I
> visited
> > > Phil Landry's house with Gary Ferstl last
> summer.
> > >  They had one sitting in the driveway and I
> got
> > > to take a good look at it.  The most awsome
> thing
> > > about this little motor is the welding
> which
> > > holds the tin sides to the cast block.  The
> welds
> > > are so perfect that they look like a long
> zipper.
> > >  When I think of the equipment and
> technology
> > > that was available to do that welding back
> in the
> > > thirties, I recognize that the welding is a
> great
> > > tribute to the man who did it.  He was a
> true
> > > artist!
> > >
> > > Dick J
> > > --- John Linville <bellytk@nh.ultranet.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > surprised no one has brought up (or I
> missed
> > > > it) that fact that V8-60s came
> > > > in two flavors, regular cast iron block
> and
> > > > "tin sided" (furnace brazed I
> > > > believe).  Friend of mine here in NH has
> a tin
> > > > sided motor.  Would look neat
> > > > with the sides all polished up and some
> Eddie
> > > > Meyer goodies.  Stuff still
> > > > turns up.  My racing partner was at home
> last
> > > > year and a guy showed up,
> > > > wanted to sell a 24 stud 3x2 intake, a
> pair of
> > > > early 24 stud heads, a pair
> > > > of Eddie Meyer V8-60 heads and a knock
> off 2x2
> > > > V8-60 intake, just like Eddie
> > > > Meyers but with no name on it.  Guy took
> $50
> > > > for all the stuff and was happy
> > > > as a clam.  Ya never know.  Then theres
> Ronnie
> > > > Roadster down in Connecticut
> > > > who has a V8-60, probably a marine motor,
> with
> > > > four one barrel carburetors
> > > > and a rack type carb linkage.  He bought
> it at
> > > > a yard sale in his local
> > > > area.  Or Ronnie's second Ardun that he
> found
> > > > in Syracuse.  Seems he was at
> > > > York, PA NSRA meet with his Ardun deuce
> > > > roadster and someone commented he
> > > > thought there was one of "those" engines
> in the
> > > > Pennysaver want ads in his
> > > > home town.  Sure enough in the Syracuse,
> NY
> > > > pennysaver there was an ad for a
> > > > "ford hemi".  Was probably a stock car
> motor
> > > > from central NY.  Had all the
> > > > racing Ardun goodies like C&T rocker
> shaft
> > > > supports, etc.
> > > >
> > > > John in NH where the sun came out today
> and
> > > >
> > > > the 18" of snow started melting on the
> roof
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: FastmetalBDF@aol.com
> > > > <FastmetalBDF@aol.com>
> > > > To: ardunbill@webtv.net
> <ardunbill@webtv.net>;
> > > > DaCudaKid@aol.com
> > > > <DaCudaKid@aol.com>; bigsid@webtv.net
> > > > <bigsid@webtv.net>; bk185@lafn.org
> > > > <bk185@lafn.org>; BJGAYLE@aol.com
> > > > <BJGAYLE@aol.com>; LITNMAN@aol.com
> > > > <LITNMAN@aol.com>;
> land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 8:58 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Arduns Big and Little
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >      Bill, thanks for all the good
> > > > specifications you sent along . These
> > > > >V8 60s only came in the passenger cars
> and
> > > > some panel trucks,
> > > > >surprisingly enough .  I do not know if
> any of
> > > > the panel trucks had the
> > > > >round tubular style front axles that
> replaced
> > > > the I - beam type axle in
> > > > >most, if not all, of the passenger cars
> with
> > > > the V8 60 motor .
> > > > >      My second car, bought in 1954, was
> a
> > > > shiny black ' 39 Standard
> > > > >coupe with the " little brother " 60
> motor and
> > > > tube axle .
> > > > >      These axles were often seen in hot
> rods
> > > > of the fifties as they looked
> > > > >great when chromed ...... all I know is
> I have
> > > > often wished I still owned
> 
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