Ed,
What am I missing? With some liberal modifications your 'Vette can run in
the Modified Sports classes. Some would call these classes 'Alterted GT'
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Van Scoy <edvs@uswest.net>
To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
Cc: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; Dan Warner
<dwarner@electrorent.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: New Category
> Keith, are you still sniffing that medical grade giggle gas you use? Now,
if I
> installed one of those red "grenade" buttons on my steering wheel, why
hell, I
> could go real fast too-for a short time anyway ;-) Yes, in Alt, you can
trim
> your brick; I am stuck with the huge body openings in the front of my car
as
> long as I stay in Pro class. No, I'm not whining, that is the rule and as
long
> as I stay in GT I have to play that way. Now if we could "invent" an
Altered
> Sports class.........................
> Ed (Keith, why ARE you running those illegal tail lights & why am I still
in
> GT?)
>
> Keith Turk wrote:
>
> > Personally I am just trying to make more HP to make up for the
Aerodynamic
> > disadvantage.... I mean if you look at it this way ... My D Fuel Altered
> > ran as fast as Ed's C/GT car... obviously my Hp numbers are Just fine...
(
> > come on Ed you didn't think I was through yet did you? )
> >
> > Keith.... ( thinking of some geek saying my tail lights aren't right for
> > the 74.. or some such silliness )
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > To: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: New Category
> > > Date: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:58 AM
> > >
> > > Dan / SCTA
> > >
> > > I want to thank you all for this unprecedented and historic
opportunity,
> > for
> > > all LSR racers, to vote on this new class structure. This is great.
> > >
> > > However, I feel strongly that there is one other line we need to vote
> > > on...that being the year cut off for this category. Personally, I
agree
> > > with Dave Dahlgren, '1981' is way to new for a "Nostalgia" class.
Can't
> > > this be set back to 1974, pre EFI anything? Old Keith's Camaro, as an
> > > example...can still be re-configured to a '74, compete in the new
> > > class...and beat up on the '53 Studebakers, '55 Chevys, '65 Mustangs,
'72
> > > Gremlins. etc.
> > >
> > > John Beckett, LSR #79, E/FCC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 8:42 AM
> > > Subject: New Category
> > >
> > >
> > > > Here it is!
> > > >
> > > > Included in this email is the proposal for the new CATEGORY which
will
> > > break
> > > > the current Modified Category classes by year. This proposal will
> > create a
> > > > new category between the existing Vintage and Modified Categories.
The
> > > body
> > > > year break will be 1949 to 1981 inclusive.
> > > >
> > > > Note that the engine breaks are restrictive as the new category will
> > deal
> > > > with AMERICAN coupe and sedan bodies only. There will be no
Competition
> > > > Coupe classes. The reasoning is that competition coupe rules are
very
> > > > liberal and the choice of body is a personal issue. All other rules
in
> > the
> > > > category will be the same as the current Modified category as far as
> > aero,
> > > > engine swaps, transmission, etc.
> > > >
> > > > You have the opportunity to cast a vote as to the degree of
mechanical
> > > > sophistication in this new category. The name of the category is not
> > yet
> > > > decided. You also have the chance to name this category through a
> > contest
> > > > administered by Jon Amo on his web site www.landracing.com.
> > > > When choosing your name for the category please be aware that our
class
> > > > naming convention is laborious at best. An example would be:
> > XXO/BACFAlt
> > > (AC
> > > > = American Classic). Lets not make the class name longer than the
> > vehicle.
> > > >
> > > > Please distribute the proposal to your buddies who may not be
internet
> > > > savvy. This is an unprecedented opportunity to take part in the
> > process.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > Dan Warner
> > > >
> > > > Southern California Timing Association 2001 Rule Book Proposal
> > > >
> > > > The following sections are recommended rules changes to add the
> > "Nostalgia
> > > > Category" into the new 2001Rule Book.
> > > >
> > > > Purpose:
> > > > To split the Coupe/Sedan car classes using newer aerodynamic cars
(1982
> > to
> > > > present) from the older less aerodynamic cars (1949 through 1981).
This
> > > > change
> > > > will make the older cars more competitive and still allow the newer
> > cars
> > > to
> > > > compete amongst themselves. All old records will be re-established
and
> > > > those records set by newer cars will stay with them in the current
> > > Modified
> > > > Category classes. Here is an example; John Rain's car (1989 Indy 500
> > > > Pontiac) record of 274.5 MPH for D/PS will stay with him in the
current
> > > > Production Category class, but in the newly established Nostalgia
> > > Category,
> > > > Ron Hall's car (1963 Avanti) old record of 195.6 MPH will be
re-entered
> > > into
> > > > the record book for D/NPS class. This way no one looses a record and
> > the
> > > old
> > > > records are reinstated. Carefully read the two options in the
Nostalgia
> > > > Category and vote your
> > > > opinion on the spaces provided. The two options are; Option 1A or
1B
> > on
> > > one
> > > > subject and Option 2A or 2B on the other subject, you must vote for
one
> > of
> > > > the two choices for each option. Also, vote for or against the
> > proposal
> > > of
> > > > adding the new Nostalgia Category to the 2001 Rule Book.
> > > > The goal is to have every race car owner in the Coupe or Sedan class
> > vote
> > > on
> > > > these changes. The race car owners voting can be those who race at
> > > > Bonneville, the Dry Lakes, Maxon or all venues. Each race car owner
> > > > will have one vote on the outcome of this consideration of rule
> > changes.
> > > > Its important that all owners vote and mail their results to Bob
Sykes
> > Jr.
> > > > by no later than November 1, 2000. At that cutoff date, the ballots
> > will
> > > be
> > > > tallied and the results will impact on what changes go into the
> > Southern
> > > > California Timing Associatation Rule Book for the year 2001. So
please
> > > > don't sit on this, study the changes then vote and mail your results
> > > ASAP!!
> > > >
> > > > NOSTALGIA CATEGORY
> > > > The Nostalgia Car category will consists of American coupe or sedan
> > cars
> > > > from 1949 through and including 1981.
> > > > Note: the "N" has been added to the following categories to
indicate
> > the
> > > > Nostalgia Car Class.
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > > NOSTALGIA FUEL ALTERED COUPE - /NBFALT, /NFALT
> > > > NOSTALGIA GAS ALTERED COUPE - /NBGALT, /NGALT
> > > >
> > > > Engine classes allowed are:
> > > > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, XXF, XXO, and V4.
> > > >
> > > > NOSTALGIA GAS COUPE and SEDAN - /NBGC, /NGC
> > > >
> > > > Engine classes allowed are:
> > > > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, XXF, XXO, and V4
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NOSTALGIA PRODUCTION COUPE and SEDAN - /NPRO
> > > >
> > > > Engine classes allowed are:
> > > > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, and V4.
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > > NOSTALGIA SUPERCHARGED PRODUCTION COUPE and SEDAN - /NPS
> > > >
> > > > Engine classes allowed are:
> > > > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO.
> > > >
> > > > NOSTALGIA CATEGORY
> > > >
> > > > (Option #1A, EFI is allowed)
> > > > (Option #1B, EFI is not allowed)
> > > >
> > > > (Option #2A, computer controlled ignition timing is allowed)
> > > > (Option #2B, computer controlled ignition timing is not allowed).
> > > >
> > > > VOTING FORM FOR COUPE/SEDAN CAR OWNERS
> > > >
> > > > OWNER'S NAME: print name ___________________________________
> > > >
> > > > OWNER'S SIGNATURE: ___________________________________
> > > >
> > > > DATE VOTED: ___________________________________
> > > >
> > > > HOME ADDRESS: ___________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
___________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > PHONE NUMBER ___________________________________
> > > >
> > > > CAR'S CLASS & ENTRY #: ___________________________________
> > > >
> > > > LAST RACE ENTERED: ___________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THE NOSTALGIA CATEGORY?
> > > >
> > > > YES _____
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NO _____
> > > >
> > > > VOTE FOR ONE ON OPTION #1
> > > > OPTION
1A
> > > ____
> > > > (YES, EFI)
> > > >
(Electronic
> > > Fuel
> > > > Injection) or
> > > > OPTION
1B
> > > ____
> > > > (NO, EFI)
> > > >
> > > > VOTE FOR ONE ON OPTION #2
> > > > OPTION
2A
> > > ____
> > > > (YES,CMPTR )
> > > >
(Computer
> > > > ignition timing) or
> > > > OPTION
2B
> > > ____
> > > > (NO, CMPTR)
> > > >
> > > > "AFTER YOU'VE VOTED SEND THIS LAST PAGE TO:"
> > > > Bob Sykes Jr. (Coupes & Sedan Committee Chairman)
> > > > 6815 Scott Circle,
> > > > Cypress, California 90630 Any questions, call Bob at home (714)
> > > 527-6907
> > > >
> > > > email: Dan Warner - dwarner@electrorent.com Bobby Sykes Jr.
> > > > drylakes207@yahoo.com
> > > >
> > > > Please vote by November 1, 2000 so the Southern California Timing
> > > > Association can make a count of the votes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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