Oh yeah- we're a bit fiesty, pop is currently getting his computer set up so
you should be hearing from him in here soon. We get carried away at times,
trying to push the rules, not change them or reinvent a new class where
we'll be competitive. Like Kvack says- Land Speed Racing can be a humbling
experience, we're looking forward to it !
Darrell- BRE
-----Original Message-----
From: joe boogie [SMTP:boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 4:13 PM
To: lsr_man@yahoo.com; land-speed@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Bench Racing
Well, you'r right again Dick! Got BEER?
I've been in plenty of these "clubhouse discussions" before an' they
allas
end up da' same: "When da' green flag drops th' bull---- stops!"
........Who's makin' th' next Beer run????
Cheers, Doug in NY 5pm edt 12/8
PS: Hi to Bruce F.... ya sure raised some feisty boyz dere.
>From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
>To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>,
land-speed@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: Bench Racing
>Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:45:45 -0800 (PST)
>
>Hey John, ain't this great bench racing though?
>How these discussions get so heated and involved.
> I can just see the dark-paneled interior of the
>clubhouse. Three or four pitchers of beer about.
> A pyramid of empty beer cans on one table, more
>prezels on the floor than in the bowls,
>everything above the six and a half foot mark
>obscured by cigar smoke, and all us guys standing
>around making all these new proposals, shooting
>each other down, and having a great time;
>somebody swearing he could have gotten eight more
>miles per hour out of his car if he had just
>re-jetted, etc, etc, etc. Just peek at the last
>forty messages or so and imagine all those
>conversations going on in this super, LSR,
>bench-racing- clubhouse! I LOVE IT!!!
>
>--- John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
>wrote:
> > I think some people are still missing the
> > point. With a quick count
> > there are over 620 classes now on the
> > books...which includes all the
> > existing Vintage classes. And currently
> > Flathead Fords don't have to run 289
> > OHV Fords, Arduns don't have to run against
> > Hemi's and Buick straight
> > eight's don't run against Chevy V-8's now. So
> > what are we talking about? We
> > don't need to reinvent the wheel here guys. No
> > body is being excluded from
> > LSR.
> >
> > John Beckett
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > To: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com
> > <dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com>;
> > land-speed@autox.team.net
> > <land-speed@autox.team.net>; bbutters@dmi.net
> > <bbutters@dmi.net>
> > Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:48 AM
> > Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia
> > class
> >
> >
> > >Doug, I think you're missing a subtle point
> > here.
> > > Those were the days when the greatest
> > >breakthrough in automotive history was one HP
> > per
> > >cubic inch. What are production cars doing
> > now 3
> > >1/2 or 4 or even more in decent rice burners
> > with
> > >variable cam timing etc? Some of us just want
> > to
> > >have a place for some of the vintage stuff to
> > >still have fun. I don't think a 300 inch
> > >flathead is going to fare too well against an
> > >electronic injected, computer ignitioned 302
> > >small block do you? Those old Ardun
> > conversions,
> > >finned aluminum flatheads, nail head Buicks,
> > >Y-block Fords with three deuces, 392 Hemis
> > with
> > >dual fours or Hilborns, and straight eight
> > Buicks
> > >ought to have a place to be showcased other
> > than
> > >in magazine articles and museums! Do I feel
> > >threatened - hell no, I'm going to run my
> > >flathead roadster anyway, but it sure doesn't
> > >have much of a chance against a 289 Cobra or a
> > >5.0 Mustang! But that doesn't mean I wouldn't
> > >like to have a place where I could still run
> > in a
> > >competetive race. Don't worry, the old timers
> > >will never threaten the mega buck, monster
> > cubic
> > >inch, electronically sparked, computer
> > controled
> > >cars. I'm sure you'll feel the pinch a little
> > >when your forhead gets longer and your belt
> > gets
> > >bigger and the jet turbine cars, anti-gravity
> > >crusers, and nuclear powered zillion mile per
> > >hour science fiction racers of the future
> > start
> > >to crowd your big block and every other
> > internal
> > >combustion engine into antiquity. If that new,
> > >leading edge, high tech stuff is what is most
> > >important, then NHRA, Indycar, and F-1 events
> > >have a lot of it! I for one, would still like
> > to
> > >see old Novis, Alphas, and Offys run, but they
> > >can't share the track with modern stuff. In
> > LSR
> > >we race one at a time, so anything has a safe
> > >place on the track. There's room for all of us
> > in
> > >LSR and I hope it stays that way.
> > >
> > >
> > >--- dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com wrote:
> > >> youve got to be kidding- a nostalgia class.
> > a
> > >> car with electronic fuel
> > >> injection cant race against a car with
> > >> mechanical fuel injection? a car
> > >> with exhaust thermocouples cant race against
> > a
> > >> car without them ? a car
> > >> with an electronic rev limiter cant race
> > >> against a car without one? - this
> > >> is rediculous - are you guys that threatened
> > by
> > >> some electronics that you
> > >> cannot throw down and race against them? -
> > from
> > >> hearing about the
> > >> "nostalgia" days from my pop, these were the
> > >> days where you raced hardcore,
> > >> with what you had - street or drags- the
> > days
> > >> of the real heads up warriors
> > >> -not worried about what the other guy had
> > under
> > >> his hood ( oh, please
> > >> excuse me -i'm sorry - i cannot race you
> > >> because youve got a new 409 chevy)
> > >> -race to the death ! - victory ! -none
> > of
> > >> this whining crap - if
> > >> the "nostalgia" method is so great - go out
> > and
> > >> show em and kick their a- -
> > >> es instead of sissifying this sport with a
> > new
> > >> "wheelchair" classification
> > >> !
> > >>
> > >> and you know what else, now youre gonna get
> > >> record hunters unplugging their
> > >> oxygen sensors just so that they can grab
> > the
> > >> equivalent record in your
> > >> "nostalgia" class ! -
> > >>
> > >> best regards -
> > >> doug @ black radon engineering
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >=====
> > >Dick J in East Texas
> > > - - ECTA #72 - -
> > > G/FCC - FX/STR
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>=====
>Dick J in East Texas
> - - ECTA #72 - -
> G/FCC - FX/STR
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