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To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>, <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Subject: Nostalgia class
From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:47:48 -0500
    Just another thought here...but if were thinking of banning electronic
fuel injection and turbochargers...lets go all the way and ban electronic
ignition, electric fuel pumps, electric water pumps as well. If it wasn't
built before 1959 it won't be acceptable for Nostalgia class.

    John Beckett


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
To: Beth Butters <bbutters@dmi.net>; dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com
<dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
<land-speed@autox.team.net>; 'joe boogie' <boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia class


>Hey Kvack..... Lets kick the class around here on the list.... see what we
>can come up with..... Maybe this list can come up with something worth
while
>long term....
>
>Personally I don't think the 1970 limit is the right one.... Personally I
>like the 1980 or before.... American cars didn't get that much smaller
these
>years and honestly my 80 Camaro and the 53 Stude are about the same size
>car.... (both Bricks in disguise)
>
>I doubt my car would qualify as I am going to update the Fuel system this
>year.. but when I sell the car sure would be nice if someone could race it
>competitively.... Keith
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Beth Butters <bbutters@dmi.net>
>To: <dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>; 'joe boogie'
><boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 1:08 AM
>Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia class
>
>
>> Proposal for Nostalgia classification for Land  Speed Racing at
Bonniville
>Salt Flats.   Intent: to preserve the diversity of vehicles in competition.
>>               Rules for classification "N" nostalgia        All
>classifications and safety requirements  are the same as currently in use
>including any changes made in the future  by SCTA/BNI for competition at
>Bonniville.    For cars to be eligible for records in "N" class they must
>use automobile bodies built before 1970. All modifications allowed by SCTA
>for the various classifications are allowed except the use of electronic
>engine controls.   Class records will be initially filled with current or
>past record holders with the fastest record in their various classes that
>meet the requirements for "N" class status.      This is what I think is
>needed to keep the old cars running  on the salt and not be pushed out of
>the arena by much more aerodynamic cars.  This could be accomplished
without
>the electronic restriction but I doubt if it would be quit as successful
>and wouldn't preserve the sight and sounds  that so many of us lust for at
>Bonniville.     If you agree with th!
>> is or a variation of this please submit a request  to the timing stand at
>future SCTA/USFRA sanctioned meets and If the proposal has merit and enough
>support I'm sure it will be discussed at future rules committee meetings.
>Thanks for bearing with me on this  and give it some thought. L. Kvach
>Butters  #1392  BBG/Alt-CC  Studebaker
>> ----------
>> From:  joe boogie[SMTP:boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com]
>> Sent:  Friday, December 03, 1999 9:59 AM
>> To:  dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; land-speed@autox.team.net
>> Subject:  RE: Electronics vs. old way
>>
>>     Doug @ Radon:
>>
>>          I was'nt "whining"        READ   what I said.
>>
>>        I was simply calling a spade a spade.  I've been around long
enough
>> in this racing game to know what's what, what's happened, and what will
>> happen. I have developed my opinions based on real world observations in
>the
>> last 35 years fooling with cars, racing and motorcycles.
>>          I was advocating fair separation between the new technology and
>the
>> older '50s & '60s technology many people enjoy fooling around with.
>> Bonneville is not only about speed, but tradition as well....How many
will
>> want to run a beautiful '32 ford coupe body for example if they know they
>> will have EFI new tech Firebirds in their class? To "bomb" their records?
>> That will effectively put the nails in the coffin of traditional body
>styles
>> as they have been for fifty years or more. There's room for everybody in
>> this game.  Let's just try to make sure it stays that way OK?
>>
>>        You too are also fully entitled to your opinions and will
doubtless
>> change them as time goes on, just as I and most everyone else does as the
>> years rattle on past us.
>>
>>                   ...best regards, Doug in NY  12:45pm edt Dec 3
>>
>>
>> BTW:  I have seen your car and it is KILLER. Keep up the good work.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com
>> >To: boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com,land-speed@autox.team.net
>> >Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way
>> >Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:59:59 -0500
>> >
>> >what is this "unfairness" whining all about ??? - just go out and race
>YOUR
>> >CAR YOUR WAY - who cares if the other guy in your class has some
>> >electronics on his ride - big deal - if you chose not to run electronics
>> >then be glad youre allowed to choose - if you choose electronics / knife
>> >switch / flathead / dumptruck / nitro tfx / weedwhacker or whatever
>> >technology that turns you on then just drive it in the class it fits in
>and
>> >chill out and quit worrying about having special class designations
>because
>> >some other guy is monitoring his exhaust with an o2 sensor and youre
not.
>> >if youre so threatened that some guy has some miracle electronics thats
>> >gonna blow your doors off then step up to the plate and get them
yourself
>> >or quit whining about having your personally tailored handicapped class
>so
>> >no one gets an advantage on you and drive it your way.
>> >
>> >regards
>> >doug @ black radon engineering
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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