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Re: [Healeys] Block Porosity

To: Wayne Schultz <waschu2@gmail.com>, Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Block Porosity
From: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 14:20:54 -0800
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Wayne - thank you.
Interesting that your friend's and my block leak at exactly the same spot
behind the center tappet cover. I wonder how many other blocks are out
there that also leak with unsuspecting users ?
When you had the pan off was this the only water drip that you could see ?
How were you able to confirm that the leak had been repaired by your
peening and epoxy ?

I used the same technique to do a repair.  Recently (800mi since repair)
opened the tappet cover again and there was no evidence of any water with
coolant at 12 psi.  Am a bit lazy to remove the sump to check but may have
to. I used Barrs when I first discovered the creamy goo - thinking it might
be a head gasket - this was before you put me onto the block porosity leak.
There is just no evidence of the creamy oil/water emulsion at any place.
However what disturbs me is that oil lab tests show water content above
their flag level. Been running with no glycol. Have a fluorescent dye in
the coolant as well. Losing a little coolant.
Any idea how much run time for the creamy emulsion to appear ?
Have also discovered that the ceramic block repair additives are not safe
to mix with the oil and could damage the bearings.

Last resort is a replacement block - grrr !
rg




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On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 3:12=E2=80=AFPM Wayne Schultz <waschu2@gmail.com> w=
rote:

> Hello Roger, my friend's  Healey with the Porosity problem, as we talked
> about a while ago, was behind the middle tappet access cover. His leak wa=
s
> at the raised boss with the threads for the tappet cover mount bolt. His
> engine would only drip when cold. When the block warmed up it did not lea=
k.
> Slight heat expansion of the block was enough to stop the leak. At the en=
d
> of the day I fell back to my Jaguar servicing in the Seventies when they
> said to add Bar's Stop leak when changing the coolant on their V12 engine=
s.
> Following the instructions I warmed the engine with the Bar's and fresh
> coolant. As the engine cooled I used my cooling system pressure system
> tester and Pressurized  the system to 15 PSI and let it sit for 24 hours.
> My logic was as the engine cooled and the porosity  started to open  the
> Bar's coolant mixture would be forced into the leak. It seemed to work
> because he enjoyed the car for several seasons with no issues. I instruct=
ed
> him to change the oil every spring in the event of a slight leak over
> Winter. We never saw any more Yellow gunk on the dipstick or on the oil
> filler cap.   I will caveat that Bar's stop leak from  1970 is probably
> much different then what is sold now.  Hoping this might help others. I
> found the leak when I removed his oil pan and saw the dribble down the
> inside of the block into the oil pan area.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Wayne - thank you.</div><div>Interes=
ting that your friend&#39;s and my block leak at exactly the same spot behi=
nd the center tappet cover. I wonder how many other blocks are out there th=
at also leak with unsuspecting users ?</div><div>When you had the pan off w=
as this the only water drip that you could see ?<br></div><div>How were you=
 able to confirm that the leak had been repaired by your peening and epoxy =
?</div><div><br></div><div>I used the same technique to do a repair.=C2=A0 =
Recently (800mi since repair)=C2=A0 opened the tappet cover again and there=
 was no evidence of any water with coolant at 12 psi.=C2=A0 Am a bit lazy t=
o remove the sump to check but may have to. I used Barrs when I first disco=
vered the creamy goo - thinking it might be a head gasket - this was before=
 you put me onto the block porosity leak. <br></div></div><div id=3D"m_-194=
4095433255184945DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2">There is just no evid=
ence of the creamy oil/water emulsion at any place. However what disturbs m=
e is that oil lab tests show water content above their flag level. Been run=
ning with no glycol. Have a fluorescent dye in the coolant as well. Losing =
a little coolant.<br></div><div>Any idea how much run time for the creamy e=
mulsion to appear ?</div><div>Have also discovered that the ceramic block r=
epair additives are not safe to mix with the oil and could damage the beari=
ngs.</div><div><br></div><div>Last resort is a replacement block - grrr !</=
div><div>rg<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=
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iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan =
10, 2025 at 3:12=E2=80=AFPM Wayne Schultz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:waschu2@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">waschu2@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Hello Roger, my friend&#39;s=C2=A0 Healey with the Porosity problem, as w=
e talked about a while ago, was behind the middle tappet access cover. His =
leak was at the raised boss with the threads for the tappet cover mount bol=
t. His engine would only drip when cold. When the block warmed up it did no=
t leak. Slight heat expansion of the block was enough to stop the leak. At =
the end of the day I fell back to my Jaguar servicing in the Seventies when=
 they said to add Bar&#39;s Stop leak when changing the coolant on their V1=
2 engines. Following the instructions I warmed the engine with the Bar&#39;=
s and fresh coolant. As the engine cooled I used my cooling system pressure=
=C2=A0system=C2=A0 tester and Pressurized=C2=A0 the system to 15 PSI and le=
t it sit for 24 hours. My logic was as the engine cooled and the porosity=
=C2=A0 started to open=C2=A0 the Bar&#39;s coolant mixture would be forced =
into the leak. It seemed to work because he enjoyed the car for several sea=
sons with no issues. I instructed him to change the oil every spring in the=
 event of a slight leak over Winter. We never saw any more Yellow gunk on t=
he dipstick=C2=A0or on the oil filler=C2=A0cap.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I will caveat t=
hat Bar&#39;s stop leak from=C2=A0 1970 is probably much different then=C2=
=A0what is sold now.=C2=A0 Hoping this might help others. I found the leak =
when I removed his oil pan and saw the dribble down the inside of the block=
 into the oil pan area.=C2=A0</div>
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