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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:53:06 -0500
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That car confused me because in the photo of it I saw, supposedly in =
Australia, it was White and sported the license plate PWD663F, which is =
the same plate Alan Casevant=E2=80=99s car had during our mountain tour. =
 He sold it to Germany and everyone seems to agree it=E2=80=99s now in =
Switzerland, not Australia.

I sent a query to Mr. Rowland about the discrepancy, hoping he could =
clarify things, but he didn=E2=80=99t respond.

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Steve Byers

BJ8 Registry

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris =
Dimmock
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 10:06 AM
To: KENNETH FLEMNG <ahmg@aol.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000

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Doesn=E2=80=99t Peter Rowland (brother of Rob, Healey Factory Australia) =
own one?

Isn=E2=80=99t one of the original 4000=E2=80=99s still here in =
Australia?





On 23 Jan 2024, at 5:57=E2=80=AFpm, KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys =

=EF=BB=BFHank,

I was at the museum I=E2=80=99m July and saw this one.

Ken

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On Jan 22, 2024, at 9:21=E2=80=AFPM, Hank Leach <gradea1@charter.net =

=EF=BB=BF

Guys-the photos i sent earlier of the 3- 4000s clearly show 3 different =
side light configurations so no matter what color the cars are now, I'm =
sure that no one swapped any shrouds. Look closely at the photos-the =
first prototype had a combination of large and small Lucas lamps. Hank
--------------------=20

From: "KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net =
To: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com =
Sent: Mon, Jan 22 2024 05:38 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000=20
No Michael , that is fine . What prompted my response was I went to the =
ad and it said one of four. I believe there were only 3 but could be =
wrong but fairly sure none were red. If it=E2=80=99s a tool room copy i =
applaud to the owner for

his work. I have yet to look it closely but will.=20

Ken

Sent from my iPhone

=20

On Jan 22, 2024, at 2:36=E2=80=AFPM, Michael Oritt =

Hi Ken--

=20

Perhaps I should not have assumed that the car pictured was in fact "the =
one true 4000".

=20

=20

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:44=E2=80=AFPM KENNETH FLEMNG <ahmg@aol.com =

That=E2=80=99s is certainly not and original  from my knowledge . I also =
was in Alan car when he had it . It=E2=80=99s now in Switzerland I was =
told . I recall being three on e automatic .  None of them for red and =
did have this style dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as =
I have not looked closely but appears to be done well.. =20

Alan Hendrix had the car at shop for long periods and he could shed one =
light . The black 4000 is in Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year =
and Alan=E2=80=99s was white. I have photo of me in it somewhere .=20

Ken

Sent from my iPhone

=20

On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18=E2=80=AFPM, Michael Oritt =

No doubt Kees and yet there it is in print.

=20

I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant  =
Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought =
it was unimpressive.=20

=20

Best--Michael Oritt

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>That car confused me because in the photo of =
it I saw, supposedly in Australia, it was White and sported the license =
plate PWD663F, which is the same plate Alan Casevant=E2=80=99s car had =
during our mountain tour.=C2=A0 He sold it to Germany and everyone seems =
to agree it=E2=80=99s now in Switzerland, not =
Australia.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I sent a query to Mr. Rowland about the =
discrepancy, hoping he could clarify things, but he didn=E2=80=99t =
respond.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Steve =
Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys &lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris =
Dimmock<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 23, 2024 10:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
KENNETH FLEMNG &lt;ahmg@aol.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys =
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Austin-Healey 4000<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Doesn=E2=80=99t Peter Rowland (brother of Rob, Healey =
Factory Australia) own one?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Isn=E2=80=99t one of the original 4000=E2=80=99s still =
here in Australia?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On 23 Jan 2024, at 5:57<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>pm, KENNETH =
FLEMNG via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>=EF=BB=BF</span>Hank,<o:p></o:p=
></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I was at the museum I=E2=80=99m July and =
saw this one.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ken<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&lt;IMG_2557.jpeg&gt;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 22, 2024, at 9:21<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM, Hank Leach =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net";>gradea1@charter.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>=EF=BB=BF</span><o:p></o:p></p>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Guys-the photos i sent earlier of the 3- 4000s =
clearly show 3 different side light configurations so no matter what =
color the cars are now, I'm sure that no one swapped any shrouds. Look =
closely at the photos-the first prototype had a combination of large and =
small Lucas lamps. Hank<br>-------------------- <br><br>From: =
&quot;KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
<br>Reply-To: &quot;KENNETH FLEMNG&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ahmg@aol.com";>ahmg@aol.com</a>&gt; <br>To: &quot;Michael =
Oritt&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
<br>Cc: &quot;Healeys&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
<br>Sent: Mon, Jan 22 2024 05:38 PM <br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] =
Austin-Healey 4000 <br>No Michael , that is fine . What prompted my =
response was I went to the ad and it said one of four. I believe there =
were only 3 but could be wrong but fairly sure none were red. If =
it=E2=80=99s a tool room copy i applaud to the owner =
for<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>his work. I have yet =
to look it closely but will.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ken<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 22, 2024, at 2:36<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM, Michael =
Oritt &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Hi =
Ken--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Perhaps I should not =
have assumed that the car pictured was in fact <em><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>&quot;the one true =
4000&quot;</span></em>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:44<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM KENNETH =
FLEMNG &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ahmg@aol.com";>ahmg@aol.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>That=E2=80=99s is certainly =
not and original &nbsp;from my knowledge . I also was in Alan car when =
he had it . It=E2=80=99s now in Switzerland I was told . I recall being =
three on e automatic .&nbsp; None of them for red and did have this =
style dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as I have not =
looked closely but appears to be done well..&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Alan Hendrix had the car at =
shop for long periods and he could shed one light . The black 4000 is in =
Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year and Alan=E2=80=99s was white. =
I have photo of me in it somewhere .&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ken<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM, Michael =
Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>No doubt Kees and yet =
<em><span style=3D'font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>there it is in =
print.</span></em><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I saw this car years ago =
when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant&nbsp; Something happened =
and he departed the scene as did&nbsp;the car.&nbsp; I thought&nbsp;it =
was unimpressive.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><blockquote =
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