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Re: [Healeys] Fw: Fw: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too thick - Westport Vint

To: "warthodson@aol.com" <warthodson@aol.com>, "Healey, Forum" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: Fw: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too thick - Westport Vintage Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672
From: josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 10:26:31 +0200 (CEST)
Cc: "hyndmank@mossmotors.com" <hyndmank@mossmotors.com>
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Gary,
Most, better nearly everything, the usual parts suppliers sell are=20
incorrect or better not identical to original parts or to original=20
specification. But let me tell you as an employee of a big parts supplier=
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here in Europe (Limora, SC Parts): Nearly all customers, maybe 99.9%, do=20
not care. They modify anyway everything they are able to modify. Nothing=20
can be as it was originally. I always here the new products, high torque=20
starter, electronic ignition, alternators in the body of generators,=20
aluminium radiators, suspension, shock absorbers, engine parts, and, and,=
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and, are so much better and much advanced to what BMC originally supplied.=
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You and I know they are wrong. But they WANT IT SO. And most customers are=
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not willing to pay a premium price for a premium product. That`s it.
I can`t convince my boss to change anything, as it would reduce the=20
profit!!!!
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Josef Eckert
K=C3=B6nigswinter/Germany
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Ken,
I am disappointed by your reply. =20
Of course all your inventory is the same. It is your specification that is=
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incorrect.
Even though the Healey mailing list agrees with me that the Moss=20
specification is too thick & I offered to send you additional photos &=20
samples of original padding material you apparently have no interest is=20
correcting the error in your specification. "No thanks. We will just keep=
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selling the incorrect parts because most customers don't waste their time=
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trying to correct our problems." That is not a good message to send to your=
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customers.
By the way, where did you get 3/32" for the thickness of the padding? All=
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my correspondence has indicated 1/8"?=20
Gary Hodson
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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 03:42:57 PM CDT, Ken Hyndman=20
<hyndmank@mossmotors.com> wrote:
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Gary,

All our stock of the 851-310 straps are the same.

They can be returned or perhaps take off the padding off and put some 3/32=
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gasket material in their place.

The split leg rivets should be able to re-use.

Ken

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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: trebuchet ms, geneva;=
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ly everything, the usual parts suppliers sell are incorrect or better not i=
dentical to original parts or to original specification. But let me tell yo=
u as an employee of a big parts supplier here in Europe (Limora, SC Parts):=
 Nearly all customers, maybe 99.9%, do not care. They modify anyway everyth=
ing they are able to modify. Nothing can be as it was originally. I always =
here the new products, high torque starter, electronic ignition, alternator=
s in the body of generators, aluminium radiators, suspension, shock absorbe=
rs, engine parts, and, and, and, are so much better and much advanced to wh=
at BMC originally supplied. You and I know they are wrong. But they WANT IT=
 SO. And most customers are not willing to pay a premium price for a premiu=
m product. That`s it.</span></p>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ken,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I am disappointed by your reply.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Of course all your inventory is the same. It is your speci=
fication that is incorrect.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Even though the Healey mailing list agrees with me that th=
e Moss specification is too thick &amp; I offered to send you additional ph=
otos &amp; samples of original padding material you apparently have no inte=
rest is correcting the error in your specification. "No thanks. We will jus=
t keep selling the incorrect parts because most customers don't waste their=
 time trying to correct our problems." That is not a good message to send t=
o your customers.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">By the way, where did you get 3/32" for the thickness of t=
he padding? All my correspondence has indicated 1/8"?&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Gary Hodson</div>
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<div>On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 03:42:57 PM CDT, Ken Hyndman &lt;hyndma=
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our stock of the 851-310 straps are the same.</p>
<p class=3D"ydpccfc7d9ayiv1905698552ydpd6f07f87yiv5930224807MsoNormal">They=
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o; gasket material in their place.</p>
<p class=3D"ydpccfc7d9ayiv1905698552ydpd6f07f87yiv5930224807MsoNormal">The =
split leg rivets should be able to re-use.</p>
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